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E_Smith Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:43 AM
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Anyone catch 24 hours? RW Propoganda.
I watched the premiere for the first time- wow what a lot of fear mongering and propoganda. Terrorists are attacking the US and kidnap the secretary of defense, who has a hippie son planning a war protest at Lockheed Martin. The son is presented as a weak loser long haired hippie who lights up a J in front of his dad. When the Secretary is kidnapped the son is left quivering in the fetal position, a total coward. The most blatant line is when the Secretary tells his son to get over his "sixth grade Michael Moore logic"! hahaha. later the terrorists put out a video on the internet with the Secretary in the "I'm about to get beheaded" position. This whole show is about promoting the "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here" meme. no shocker this show is on Fox. I have to admit though, it was pretty entertaining stuff.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:46 AM
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1. wow
thats some THICK propaganda... sounds like ROVE wrote it himself :puke:

these shows scare me, though i never watch them, but i think about all the people who do and take them seriously... i gotta listen to'em at work sometimes :scared:

:hi:

peace
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:50 AM
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2. I couldn't watch it
I saw about six seconds and it had the worst music I've ever heard on a television program.

May it be cancelled soon.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:52 AM
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3. We've been discussing it here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2388587

My thoughts (as a fan of the show from the beginning) are near the bottom.
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pamela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:52 AM
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4. I love 24...
...but you're right, it had an odd slant tonight. I hope this isn't indicative of the rest of the season. It never had this strong of a right wing vibe in previous seasons.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:57 AM
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5. I have hopes
The second hour wasn't quite as bad.

It looked like it was produced and directed by the Bush administration tonight. It's still entertaining, but only if you treat it with the same intellectual respect that you would a cartoon.

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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:57 AM
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6. My husband was always a fan but tonight he turned it off midway through

and said he didn't have time for it.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:59 AM
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7. I love 24
...and as I said in the other thread, you have to approach it as you would read a superhero comic book. It's just entertainment. Any plot twist you might see will be upended in the same season.

Just enjoy the roller coaster ride. There really isn't a message.
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E_Smith Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:07 AM
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8. yeah i get that
i agree not to take it seriously, but there was some pretty blatant stuff in there...and you have to hate when you see entertainment reinforcing the Bush administration's lies.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:14 AM
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9. The message isn't biased
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 02:14 AM by Mojambo
But the liberal stereotype applied to the Secretary's son tonight was pretty transparent. I get that they were trying to show the split between father and son, but it was a very one-sided portrayal. Images like that on popular television shows are flat out damaging to our cause.

I like the show, but as I said in another thread, you have to treat 24 with same intellectual respect as you would a cartoon. It's just not credible in any aspect.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:06 AM
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15. if you think there is not a "message" you are kidding yourself
the whole purpose is to propagandize
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:08 AM
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16. the whole purpose...
is to make money.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:07 AM
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10. They were setting up the Secretary of State character
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 03:09 AM by high density
as a Donald Rumseld-type wacko who happens to have a liberal child. Was this liberal child stereotyped as a hippie? Yeah, but who gives a shit?

This show is very stupid sometimes, but I don't think it has a political agenda.
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:10 AM
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11. total propaganda- they're obvious and blatant with their message
his past episode implied:

1) Arab families are cold vicious and heartless and will remain undercover for years-
- even the mom and the kid and are all in with terrorists
(the wicked Arab family had been in the country plotting for 4 years and they were all in on the terror plot together with the teenage son).

2) Protesters and activists are childish and uniformed (Moore comment, etc.,).

3) Torture is ok and preferred in hi pressure situations
(Keifer shot the terror suspect in the leg and got answers "just in the nick of time")

4) Muslims are close minded when it comes to accepting white Americans
(mentioned the word Muslim by name and associated it as a reason for Arabs shunning those of other backgrounds).

5) Arabs heads of households are dictators and command the family
(Dad insisted his son kill his own girlfriend who was white- -just in case she knew something)

6) We as Americans are in real danger of being beheaded all the time and it's so good the Secret Agents are out there trying to protect us.

Can't wait to see the hidden insinuations in tomorrow night's episode !

Fox incorporates subtle propaganda in everything they can-not just the news

it's amaziing
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:13 AM
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12. Entertaining? Looks, sounds, and smells like Rove's poop.
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:53 AM
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13. fox sure was hyping this show during the Vikings/Packers game.
i knew then it would be loaded with propaganda shit. After the game, I turned that TV off real quick. eeeeeech.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 07:40 AM
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14. Season before last was about rushing to war on faulty intelligence I would
not be so quick to judge the plot. Despite being a shoot em up show it takes a lot of anti right wing stands overall.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:12 AM
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17. I can separate fiction from reality. I like the show.
It also doesn't focus on the war in Iraq unlike Bush Co.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:13 AM
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18. I just posted about this in another thread.
The relevant part:


Anyone who watched last night's 24 will know what I mean...this is a show that used to center around a Black Democratic President, and now it has become a mouthpiece for Republican defense views and mocking of Michael Moore. There is a perfectly normal Muslim family like any down the street from you who happen to be plotting terrorist attacks in the United States. There is a peacenik environmentalist character who is whiny and utterly unsympathetic.

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