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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:47 PM
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Report from Atlanta's DNC conference -- Kos :
Report from Atlanta's DNC conference -- kos :

This is the second of three posts on my experience at the DNC Southern Caucus meeting in Atlanta. This ( http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/9/195715/2448) is the first. The third post will be on events related specific to Texas and Texas candidates.

As far as message is concerned, it's starting to remind me of the Democratic Primary where Dean ended up defining the message and other candidates, seeing where the Party was, ended up with similar thoughts. For me, a Reform minded Deanocrat, this of course is encouraging and the question now becomes, of those pushing for reform, how much is politics and how much is sincere. For me at least, it seems if the battle is not Dean v. Anti-Dean, it's Dean v. Dean Light...

That being said, I attending the Atlanta meeting with an open mind, and an intent to report on what I saw to better offer a view into a decision that isn't ours to make in this type of election.

In the order that the candidates spoke, below are my thoughts on style and my personal meetings at their separate events.

Simon Rosenberg

http://www.simonforchair.org/


I attended Simon's Meet and Greet event earlier in the day, and was able to personal chat with him some about blogs, technology, and the interface of the DNC with the lower levels of the Party. The Tennessee crew came in as well and held a Q and A with him. His passion for the job was much more apparent in this meeting than in what was visible in the general meeting that C-SPAN captured. His answers were complete (if at times a bit too long) and he did focus on relating his job experience running the NDN to the DNC saying he was ready to step into the job without a learning curve.

Being one of the younger candidates, he comes off maturer than Fowler does, but this is likely due to his executive position and background. His Chair Campaign had raised about $150,000 and had recently been endorsed by CraigsList, with supposed other endorsements coming this week. He had little 'campaign material' though and mentioned at one point how he supported the invasion of Iraq. He "gets it" though on the question of reform and if were elected chair would have my support and confidence. I feel that his positive aspects were not as well conveyed to the DNC audience though in the panel Q&A, and they are the voters, not me.

Tim Roemer

http://www.timroemer.com/


Tim Roemer, as hard as he may try, sounds like the ex-Congresscritter that his is, and seems artificial. His "meet and greet" event was centered on food and Max Cleland's endorsement. He had zero campaign materials. He did the traditional "Thank you for that very good question, I appreciate your question, That is perhaps the most important question" shtick in the Panel Q&A. Draped in security and patriotism in excess, he was one of the few asked specific questions about his negative points (being outside the mainstream of the party on Choice, Social Security, voting against Clinton Economic reforms, etc.) In his responses, it appeared that he was trying to set himself of as an "anti-Dean" candidate, such as saying he would not "run the party to the Left (Dean sitting on his left as he waves in that direction) or take it to the right." But so long as both he and Frost are in the hunt, they split up similar voters, helping the real reformers.

Howard Dean

The most well known of the candidates, there is less of an education issue with the delegates when it comes to policies or who the candidate its. In that sense, he has an "incumbent advantage" on those fronts one could say. DNC members that are paying less attention to the specifics of the race but are looking for reform, could quite possibly go Dean's way simply because they don't know of any alternatives. As knowledgeable as I would wish every member of the DNC would be, I get a sense from talking to some of them, that those of us racking this race online in the blogosphere have collectively a better understanding of the people and the issues at hand.

Dean drew crowds in the lobby when he would be sanding around, and was very at ease on a person to person basis He gave fresh insightful remarks in the Q&A round, much to my surprise as I was expecting something more along the lines of his stump speeches. Dean was the only candidate to be interrupted (twice) by applause in his 90 second opening remarks. Though he won't officially announce until a day or two, his campaign was in gear. The other candidates know it just as Dean does, that if he doesn't get elected, it will only be because Dean comes in second place in the final ballot between himself and the winner. His name is not one that will be dropped off in some earlier stage of balloting on the way to finding the next DNC Chair.

Wellington Webb

The former Mayor of Denver, Wellington Webb likes to tell you that his name is Wellington Webb. In the Q&A session, it was brought up about three times. Though his speaking style is clear and direct, I kept trying to figure out if he was still trying to increase his name ID. His meet and greet event was rather sparsely attended, not physically organized, and the only delegates seemingly supporting him were members of the Southern Black Caucus. Webb is a good man, and he cares about whom he represents. It appears though, that he represents the African American voice in this election, which is not enough to elect him as the Chairman. Seeing Al Sharpton in Atlanta (and getting an obligatory picture with him), it made me hope that at some point, the Democratic Party will have Black candidates for these National level offices that represent more tan "putting forth the issues and concerns of the Black community."

David Leeland

Former director of Project Vote and Chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party, David Leeland is otherwise unknown. Entering the race so late that he had no name placard for the event or and meet and greet, little is known about his policies. His answers did not go far in answering the question of what he brings to the race or what he stands for. For the most part, his responses were bland and repetitive (at least twice he stated "I think all of us up here have the same view on the answer to this question..."). Other than gaining Ohio's DNC votes, I don't see a base of support or unique appeal. I can see hi being one, if the only, of the 7 candidates in attendance to drop out before the February vote is actually held.

Donnie Fowler

http://www.changetheparty.com/

Son of former DNC Chair Don Fowler, the younger Don is also one of the candidates that "gets it". I had a chance to personally speak with him up in his suite with blogger Scrutiny Hooligans. While one of his volunteers was very hot under the collar about Dean (not exactly the best thing to do talking to Dean campaign bloggers), Fowler actually got a question into me first, asking off hand, "I bet you want to know if I can code an HTML e-mail?" Fowler's answers were not canned and he draws energy and knowledge from his fieldwork and I much appreciated the openness of his meet and greet.

In the general session, he was quick, witty, charming at times. While some of his jokes didn't get the laugh lines they deserved (tough crowd) he identifies with this Regional Caucus. There is a concern I have though, and that in a race where DNC members' votes may be cast on identity (on race, ideology, relative time in the party) that quite a few won't identify with his enthusiasm or youthful unkempt vigor. I do, but then again, I'm 20, a blogger, and not a DNC member which makes it all quite pointless unless DNC members are reading the blogosphere. And if they are, they are probably already true Reform Democrats. Fowler probably gained more ground than most, and is now a better known quantity that sticks in your head, but this was also some of his more friendly turf. If Mr. Fowler wins, I will have every confidence that the Party will be better because of it. But first he would have to win.

Martin Frost

http://www.martinfrost.com/

Martin Frost is the other former Congresscritter in this race. His meet and greet consisted of many Texans (not that those votes are unexpected). He seemed to be interested only in those in the room with official white DNC Member nametags, and if you were anything else... Hard to approach, disconnected, and not particularly compelling in his later answers to the full session, where he regularly cited Congress or people he knew as ways to answer questions.

While he may have headed up the DCCC for a couple cycles, I do not remember those being the most recent ones where the Internet and the issue of Reform has come into play. Plus, as the lead man on Democratic Redistricting after the 2000 census, I find it a bit ironic that he lost his seat in Dallas due to redistricting here in Texas. In response to a question on seeking higher office after being DNC chair, he responded "I am no longer interested in offering my name for public office" which should be interesting to Texans as his name has been bandied about as a Statewide candidate of some sort.

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Not in attendance, but with their name placards sitting empty on the table were Molly Beth Malcolm former Chair of the Texas Democratic Party and Mr. Blanchard whom I thought had already officially pulled out. Molly Beth would be a bad choice, but it is unlikely that she would enter so long as another Texan was in the race (Ron Kirk dropped out as there were too many Texans as it was).
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:54 PM
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1. Thanks so much for the update
I watched some of it and would love another opinion.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:54 PM
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2. Great write-up - funny how this is missing from the MSM
Thanks for posting

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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:00 PM
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3. another article
January 10, 2005
FIRE THE CONSULTANTS....Why have Democrats had such a hard time winning elections lately? Maybe part of the answer is lousy campaign consultants. Bob Shrum, who keeps getting hired despite his enviable record of 0-7 in presidential contests, gets most of the attention for this phenomenon, but in the latest issue of the Monthly Amy Sullivan suggests that Joe Hansen might actually be a better poster boy:

After losing seven of nine close races in 2002, Hansen was again a man in demand during the last election cycle. His firm handled five of the most competitive Senate races in 2004, including the two--Tony Knowles in Alaska and Erskine Bowles in North Carolina--that prognosticators thought were most winnable. Only one of Hansen's candidates, Ken Salazar in Colorado, pulled out a victory.

Republicans appear to be rather smarter about this:

While Democrats have permitted a Washington consultancy class to become comfortably entrenched, Republicans have effectively begun to pension off their own establishment. "The D.C. consultants for the GOP have their list of clients, but they're definitely on the outside looking in," Chuck Todd told me. "The Bush people have been very careful to give them work...but they're not in the inner circle." In 2004, seasoned Washington media strategist Alex Castellanos paid the bills with a handful of safe congressional races and a few unsuccessful primary challengers. Meanwhile, nearly every tight Senate race (North Carolina, Alaska, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Florida) was handled by a Tampa-based firm, The Victory Group.

Read the whole thing. Especially if you're one of those people who's running for DNC chairman.

--Kevin Drum 1:48 AM Permalink | TrackBack (0) | Comments (38)

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:01 PM
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4. we must keep this guy out~!!!!
we must keep this guy out~!!!!
I will really be sick if they pick the biggest example of trying to win by acting like republicans!!!

http://news.bostonherald.com/politics/view...articleid=62761

Abortion foe Roemer running for DNC chief
By Associated Press
Monday, January 10, 2005

WASHINGTON - Former Rep. Tim Roemer said Sunday that he's joining the race to lead the Democratic National Committee - a move certain to spark a heated debate about the abortion issue.

     Roemer, a Catholic from Indiana who opposes abortion, said said he respects the position of Democrats who favor abortion choice and have written it into their party platform.

     "I'm not asking to rewrite the platform," he said on ABC's "This Week." "We have a majority of our party, an overwhelming majority of our party, that is pro-choice, and I respect that. But I think we should not only be more inclusive on this issue, especially in the Midwest and the South if a candidate has those views, we should have them in our party."





     He said he's joining the race to expand the party both geographically and ideologically.

     In the last election, "the Democratic Party lost 97 of the 100 fastest-growing counties in the United States. We have four senators, Democrat senators, left in the Deep South," Roemer said. He said Democrats also have lost ground with Hispanic voters, "churchgoing African-American voters" and Catholics.

     Kate Michelman, a leading advocate for abortion choice, said "the election of such a staunchly anti-choice leader would signal that the Democratic Party is retreating from one of its core principles."

     Roemer joins a field that includes former Texas Rep. Martin Frost, Democratic activists Simon Rosenberg and Donnie Fowler, former Denver Mayor Wellington Webb and former Ohio Democratic Party chirman David Leland. Howard Dean , a former Democratic presidential candidate, is considering whether to join the race.

     Senior Democrats have approached current chairman Terry McAuliffe about staying in the job.

     Democrats will vote on the choice in February.
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:34 AM
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5. Silicon Valley Sensibilities At Play In Race For Dem. Party Chair
Silicon Valley Sensibilities At Play In Race For Dem. Party Chair


Love him or hate him, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean's upstart presidential campaign left the Democratic Party two important and lasting legacies: the empowerment of younger activists and the pioneering use of the Internet for fund-raising and organizing.

Those new realities now are at play in the battle for Democratic National Committee chairman. Two young, political operatives with strong connections to Silicon Valley - Simon Rosenberg of the New Democratic Network and Donnie Fowler, who recently headed political outreach for the high tech lobby TechNet - are preparing to duke it out with several older and more experienced candidates for the job, mostly likely even Dean himself.

Others looking to replace outgoing chairman Terry McAuliffe - Dean, former Reps. Martin Frost and Tim Roemer, and former Denver Mayor Wellington Webb among them - may be better known, but Fowler and Rosenberg's relative youth and high-tech sensibilities have boosted their profiles and generated a "buzz" among many party activists. While no clear front-runner has emerged in the race - the vote is scheduled for February 12 - both Fowler and Rosenberg are considered serious contenders.

For a party steeped in old-time traditions, both men's Silicon Valley savvy stands out - from their snazzy Web sites and blogs to their lists of supporters and aides. Fowler boasts venture capitalist and former Kerry money man Mark Gorenberg as his fund-raising chairman, while Rosenberg has won the endorsement of Craig Newmark, founder of Craigslist, the online message board and posting site.

But despite their common backgrounds in the high-tech world, the two candidates offer different visions for transforming the beleaguered party. Rosenberg largely focuses on "modernizing" the party through technical improvements, while Fowler is stressing a return to more state control and changes in how the party communicates its message.

Rosenberg, 41, was one of a handful of Democratic activists who saw the political potential of Silicon Valley during the Clinton-Gore years. He worked with industry leaders, including venture capitalists John Doerr and Andy Rappaport, to nurture the then money-rich community into a Democratic Party stronghold.

In an interview and on his Web site, Rosenberg speaks repeatedly of a 21st century Democratic Party that reclaims traditional voters using the Internet and new media.

"The Internet has enabled us to have a more intimate, direct relationship with people than ever before," he said. "I want those people to be partners, not just donors. I don't want the DNC to be just a building - I want it to be a community of millions of people."

While McAuliffe made his mark as one of the party's most successful fund raisers, Rosenberg said that if elected, he'd see his role as that of the party's chief tactician.

"At the end of the day, I'd be happy for Barack Obama and Hillary and Bill Clinton to go up against President Bush and Bill Frist. I want to go after Karl Rove and Ken Mehlman," he said, referring to Bush's top political consigliere and campaign manager.

The 37-year-old Fowler is a lifelong Democratic strategist who specialized in technology issues at the Federal Communications Commission before heading to Silicon Valley in 2001.

He shares his South Carolina roots and drawl with his father, former DNC chairman Don Fowler, but disdains many of the more fossilized party traditions. Fowler holds particular animus for Washington-based party consultants, who as he puts it, "only care what's on Tim Russert and in The Washington Post."

http://www.kfmb.com/stories/story.3276.html
it goes on...
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:34 AM
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6.  Dean to announce bid for DNC chair
http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/11/....dnc/index.html
Sources: Dean to announce bid for DNC chair
Tuesday, January 11, 2005 Posted: 7:08 AM EST (1208 GMT)

(CNN) -- Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, whose high-flying presidential campaign crashed a year ago in the political chill of Iowa, is expected to announce Tuesday that he will run for the chairmanship of the Democratic National Committee, sources close to Dean told CNN.

The announcement is expected at around 1 p.m. Tuesday, the sources said. Dean is expected to inform DNC members of his decision first, before it is posted on his blog and sent out to supporters via e-mail, the sources said.

A bid by Dean has been expected, as he has been campaigning for the post for the past two months.

Dean has said that he would not use the DNC chairmanship as a stepping stone for another presidential run in 2008.

"I don't know that any Democrat is going to win for president in 2008 unless we make the changes that need to be made at the DNC," Dean said Saturday at a regional party event in Atlanta.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:46 AM
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7. Kos is only 20???
Surely that must be a mistake? Not knowing much about him personally, but reading his site daily, I got the impression he was much older. If he is only 20, then I have hope for the youth of America.
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:48 AM
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8. I thought the same thing
plus I've heard him on AAR....I am amzaed if he is 20 (maybe he meant in his 20's?)
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 11:00 AM
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9. Mass. Dem Opposes Anti-Abortion Chairman
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4012...TC-RSSFeeds0312
January 11, 2005 | Get Your Local News and Weather


Mass. Dem Opposes Anti-Abortion Chairman



Massachusetts Democratic Party Chairman Opposes Anti-Abortion Rights DNC Chairman


WASHINGTON Jan 10, 2005 — The chairman of the Massachusetts Democratic Party said Monday that it would be "extremely foolish" for Democrats to chose someone who opposes abortion rights to lead the party.

Phil Johnston, who heads the Democrats in losing presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry's home state, spoke out amid news of former Rep. Tim Roemer's decision to seek the national party's chairmanship.

"The fact that we lost the 2004 presidential race by a narrow margin should not result in the abandonment of our party's core principles," Johnston said.

Democrats, he said, can only regain the White House by choosing someone who can articulate the values of the party and strengthen its grass-roots organization.




"It would be extremely foolish if the DNC were to be led by a chair who agrees with the Bush administration's position on abortion," Johnston said.

Roemer, a Catholic from Indiana who opposes abortion, said he respects the position of Democrats who favor abortion rights and have written it into their party platform.

Others who have expressed interest in the chairmanship include former Texas Rep. Martin Frost, Democratic activists Simon Rosenberg and Donnie Fowler, former Denver Mayor Wellington Webb and former Ohio Democratic Party chairman David Leland. Howard Dean, a former Democratic presidential candidate, is considering whether to join the race.

Some Democrats have approached current chairman Terry McAuliffe about remaining in the job.

Democrats will vote on the choice in early February.
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 11:23 AM
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10. CSPAN
http://tinyurl.com/3mqmx
above is a link to CSPAN where you can listen to interviews with Fowler and Wellington (I really like Fowler...he is my second choice to Dean).
I can't find video of the conference...or of a Dean interview....does anyone know where I could find them??
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 11:27 AM
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11. these people NEED to pick dean, for god's sake!
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 11:27 AM by Adenoid_Hynkel
the party establishment had better not make the same mistake twice by going with another platitudes-throwing DLC hack over him
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 11:53 AM
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12. link
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:17 PM
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13. Who votes for DNC chair? Here's the full list.
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