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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:24 PM
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Where is the OUTRAGE of the 21st Century PAYOLA? The Buying of Media
Well MSM is compromised. How do we know that they were not paid to push the WMD aspect of the Iraqi invasion? How many more Journalists, or corporations were paid with tax payers money to Push the BUSH AGENDA?

The past elections?

Social Security?

EVERYTHING? explains the media not covering the Fraud of this last election, The smear campaign...everything.

We have to shout it from the rafters. PAYOLA coming directly from the government. Using our Money to fund the propaganda machine.

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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:29 PM
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1. Oh well, its only the Education Dept. you know. {sarcasm}
Its not like we have to really be truthful, honest and show character as an example for the kids we don't want to leave behind.
They'll be alright.
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rogue emissary Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 05:44 PM
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36. Hey, our education system doesn't need that money, it's doing just great!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 07:34 PM
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37. Damn straight. Another 10 years and the buildings will have fallen down
and who the hell is going to need testing accountability anyway? Its all part of George Bush's crayola creative design.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:30 PM
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2. I'm sure Armstrong is just the one who got caught.
Hopefully they will find the rest of the cockroaches.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:33 PM
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3. We should be demanding questions answered. How many More were Paid.
And for what. Write and file a complaint with the FCC. This is surely an illegal act, and see if there is a way of finding out who else was bought off by the Government.

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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:02 PM
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11. USA Today found out about Armstrong by doing a freedom of Info. Act search
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:35 PM
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4. Didn't USA Today use the FOIA to get the goods on Armstrong?
Hope they or some other outlet is filing more requests, with names like Novak, Matthews, Scarborough, etc etc etc.



www.cafepress.com/showtheworld
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:04 PM
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12. Yes your right.
I thought I heard they are doing more.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:35 PM
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5. Repukes consider themselves to be above the law.....
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 09:36 PM by Webster Green
Laws do not apply. They will do whatever they please.

Can you imagine if Clinton (or any Democrat) was caught paying off (ahem) "journalists"?
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rdmccur Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:54 AM
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22. I always did like Einstein!
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 04:42 AM
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27. Dont you know yesterday on one of the sunday
morning shows some one said that this has always gone on. even during the Clinton administration!! ahhhhhh!!!
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:38 PM
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6. Remember the Medicare commercial the WH made?
The "commercial" was created to look like a press conference.

More blurring of the edges between the 4th estate and government.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:41 PM
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7. Armstrong is the tip of the Iceberg.
Bush and company are the masters of disinformation. We are treated like
crazy people who can not get over it by a large % of the American public.

"I don't see nothing 'bout dem dar stolen 'lections on the T.V. just didn't
happen." to quote a red voting Jesus loving person. That person doesn't
have to be a bad person ..... he just thinks that way because of the information
he gets.

Rove uses a company called Creative Response Concepts to plant
false information in the a willing, lazy. and in some cases a corrupt media.
CRC hires ex media folk to keep this shame going. They were behind the
swift boat shits and the shifting of the focus from bush's AWOL action w/
the military to "look Dan Rather is bad."

http://www.crc4pr.com/

look at their site and pass on information about them.

long live the boxer rebellion

:kick:
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:47 PM
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9. File a complaint with the FCC
I wonder if this would shame the media into fair and balanced reporting? To prove they were not on the payroll to keep their viewers.

But we have to campaign about getting at the truth, just who was paid and for what. See if there is a law that was violated by the WH in paying journalists.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:21 PM
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14. Dear Abby
Man it feels strange to start a letter like that. Somehow I think so many laws have
been broken and so many lines of ethics have been crossed by bush & Company and
the lap dogs in the media that truth and fairness are not even in play here.


long live the Boxer Rebellion

:kick:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:36 PM
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16. And then, from the horses' mouths, we have the 2 senators from
Ohio saying on C-span, in the congressional debates, that there was no question of fraud in the Ohio elections, and Delay attacking all who suggest it as, well, stopping just short of calling them traitors.

They flat out lie, and that gets the coverage.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:43 PM
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8. a simple email from thousands; mass email to media
how much is bush paying you with my tax dollars?

simple question. they know what it is about. if enough people ask them that simple question they will have to on air address it, make excuses justify their behavior,............they will look like asses. i think it could be huge. and we arent doing anything as a whole about this. i think it is big in taking down the present media. and nada. but then i turned off news, so cant say if media is doing anything about this story
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:49 PM
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10. That's a Great idea seabeyond
:)
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Left coast liberal Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:06 PM
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13. I know, you are absolutely right! It's just sick!
But does this story have legs?

cheers.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:21 PM
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15. If it could be proven that the Bush Government bought the media
for campaigning. Buying off the media to push certain stories, bury others. Pay for bogus Polls. Using the airwaves to spread disimformation. Couldn't this be a key in tumbling the empire?

They got Capone on tax evasion...
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:16 AM
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18. Yes and no. You won't see the kinda "leg's" you hope for from MSM, however
it's got your "leg's" and my "leg's" and everybody else's "leg's" that choose to talk about it a t work, at the store, at the soccer match, in the church, at the gas station, in the neighborhood and especially at the next board of elections meeting in your town.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:56 PM
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17. Separate the wheat from the shaft...
To use **'s words, we need to find out if they're with us or against us. I've done alot of reading and the only conclusion I come to is that these corporations have been at this for quite some time. We have been slow getting out of the gate and are just waking up to not only our stolen election, but our stolen democracy. Nothing corrupts more absolutely than absolute power.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:31 AM
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19. We have to investigate this and expose it.
I really believe this could be the key to make all this come tumbling down...just what to do with this. How to go about this. Any ideas.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:43 AM
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20. Actually, Scarborough was calling for an investigation on
Friday night, said that Armstrong's association with the WH made it look like Al Franken is right, the media is owned by the WH. Then Buchanan on Saturday was agreeing with the dem senator on the show, saying that an investigation needed to be conducted, not just to find out how many more members of the media are on the WH payroll, being paid with our tax dollars, he said that we need to know how many PR firms and lobbyists are being paid our tax dollars to do the WH's bidding.

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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:48 AM
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21. My God. merh
File complaints and demand an investigation...if this thing gets rolling, I really believe it could topple the house of *
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:22 AM
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23. We have to see how they react Monday. They may have been
called into the principals office and told to behave and toe the line. They both were outraged by it. It was shocking, yet comical. I couldn't tell if they were pissed because it made the media look bad or because they were not paid the $240,000. :shrug:

Let's see if the morning talk shows (Today, Good Morning America, etc) cover it Monday. If they do, it might have life.

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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:55 AM
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24. Hard Hitting 60 Minutes....anything? ...Tick tick tick tick
Nope, just drivel, isn't it a shame that even 60 minutes didn't cover what history was made the 6th...would they have covered it had the Ohio E-votes had been rejected?

tick tick tick :::and we still wait:::
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 04:55 PM
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31. Check out this thread!
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 04:10 AM
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25. "being paid with our tax dollars"
... think also off-record "slush funds"?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 04:42 AM
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26. May be damage control on their part
If one or a few payed journalists are outed, that might be be used to create the impression that once those are outed the problem is solved.

Fact is that all of the MSM journalists, talking heads, directors etc are payed by big corporations that have a strong interest in promoting RW policies. Simply because the MSM are the property of these large corporations; they pay the salaries of these journalists.

Self-censorship of the press is a matter of self-interest, self-preservation - you gotta wonder what the press would write, what the MSM would show us if they would not censor themselves.
All that will remain if all the attention on this matter goes to a few cases of journalists that were bribed for some specific purpose.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 04:56 PM
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32. Here is a thread that has more on this!
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:13 PM
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28. I agree. We are not seeing the MSM covering this non-stop
because they are on the "payroll" too. If they had clean hands, they would be shouting about the payola scandal from the rooftops. It makes me sick.

I'm hoping that a number of FOIA requests are pouring in as we speak so we can expose the rest of the shills. Once that happens, I want the * administration prosecuted for these illegal activities.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:20 PM
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29. The MSM outlets are owned by the Repubs/Corporations.
The bosses and owners are partisan Repubs. They have been slowly taking over all of the media companies.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 04:47 PM
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30. I just wonder how many were paid to promote the SS is Broken lie
Seems to me, everytime a report comes out that the Social Security is broken and needs to be privatized...We should all together say...How much money is Bush Co. Paying you to promote this?

Cast the light of doubt on the subject.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 05:30 PM
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33. pfaw is on it. told them huge thanks. how we go after media
It's time for an intervention. The Bush administration has become addicted to taxpayer-funded, "fake news" propaganda. We, and our elected representatives in Congress, must step in.

News reports have revealed that the Department of Education used $240,000 of our taxes to hire Armstrong Williams, an ultra-conservative black columnist and talk-show host, to promote the controversial No Child Left Behind Act to his readers, viewers and colleagues in the media.<1> Williams did just as the Department asked, praising Bush's signature education initiative in his columns as well as on his and other television shows. Repeatedly, he failed to inform his audiences that his comments were bought and paid for with their own taxes.

This is not an isolated incident or simply bad judgment. The Government Accountability Office found last year that the Department of Health and Human Services violated two federal laws by producing propaganda videos touting Medicare's new drug benefits which were misleadingly packaged to look like news reports from independent journalists. Last week, the GAO announced that the Office of National Drug Control Policy had also potentially broken the law by using taxpayer dollars to produce similar "fake news" video segments.<2> Both agencies distributed the videos to news broadcasters, which in some cases aired them without telling viewers that they were watching government-sponsored propaganda.

Behind its rhetoric about moral values, the Bush administration is undermining ethical standards in government and attempting to hook the public on White House spin with undisclosed pay-offs to journalists.

Help break the administration of its nasty propaganda habit:

Tell your members of Congress to call for a top-to-bottom investigation of the Education Department's contract and all similar schemes at other federal agencies.
http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=16842&action=1641

Tell them this isn't about right and left, it's about right and wrong.

Demand that the Department of Education do everything it can to get back the $240,000 it paid to Armstrong Williams.
http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=16842&action=1642

Remind Department officials that you paid your taxes in good faith to fund educational programs for the children in your community, not to pay for propaganda.
There's plenty of blame to go around, but our tax dollars are another matter. President Bush has underfunded No Child Left Behind by billions each year since it passed.<3> Meanwhile, his administration has spent large sums on propaganda intended to be fed to us as real news. They even spent our tax dollars to produce ratings of how truly independent news organizations were covering Bush's programs and policies.<4>

Help restore accountability, ethics and financial sanity to our government. Write Congress and demand that they get tough with the Bush administration. Americans shouldn't have to get their news wondering, "How much did the government pay them to say that?"




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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 05:36 PM
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34. Thank you seabeyond, Lets get behind this, We have to clean up the Media
Without the media we have a more difficult time getting our message out. Its a must. Thanks again seabeyond...you're an angel
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 05:40 PM
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35. It's the media, stupid!
YES, this is our main problem. Without a truly free media, people don't know there's a problem!! Voting machines without paper trails? No problem. The media isn't reporting it. What's really happening in Iraq? No problem. The media isn't reporting it. Renewed nuclear testing in Nevada? No problem. The media isn't reporting it.

We HAVE to take back our media because it's the true WMD - Weapon of Mass Distraction. The great deceiver instead of educator.

Thank GOD for Link TV and Free Speech TV.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 08:07 PM
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38. M$M, M$M, M$M
Wow, that dollar sign sure fits, eh? M$M, the money in the middle.

This thread is amazing. While I watched them cuss CBS tonight on the (k)newshour, I had a feeling they were getting CBS out of the way before turning on bushco with similar reporting. What CBS did was nothing compared to what is detailed in this thread.

The door is wide open on M$M now. CBS insiders were chopped at the knees for a minor mistake. Surely the media serfs are gonna rise in rebellion, and pitchfork bushco for bushco's far more dastardly deeds? Maybe the revolution will be televised?
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