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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:47 PM
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how classy of Grey Davis
SOUTH EL MONTE, Calif. — California Gov. Gray Davis (search) on Saturday took a dig at Republican gubernatorial candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger (search ), telling one potential voter at a campaign stop that "you shouldn't be governor unless you can pronounce the name of the state."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96662,00.html

Now I don't live in California and I don't care about this race, but how tasteless is it for a sitting governor to make a comment like this particularly in a state with a lot of immigrants ?

Classy with a capital "K".
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:49 PM
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1. yeah, it was stupid
wish he hadn't done it. not just because it might hurt him but just because it was wrong. although it probably wont affect him that much in the end since arnold is being accused of racist comments and opposes immigrants rights.
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:53 PM
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5. Yeah, probably puts it Bustamante v McClintock (?)
realistically probably who should be vieing for the opening.

I'll bet Dean is upset about it after he went out and stumped for the guy. Like stepping in dog poop.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:51 PM
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2. Repubs are the ones with the English only rules...it is a function
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 07:52 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
of their usual double talk that it is an issue at all. BTW, I suppose you have a problem with Davis pointing out that he actually served rather than playing a tough guy on TV...

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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:54 PM
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6. nope, not at all just the slur
n/t
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:55 PM
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7. Explain how it is a slur
Did he claim supremacy?
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:59 PM
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12. that lack of the proper accent rules you ineligible to serve
making the point that having the correct accent gives that supremacy.

But if you want to split hairs then you'll need to continue this with someone else.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:01 PM
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17. No you need to post this over at Freerepublic
Where it will play better. I think it's pure crap.
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:10 PM
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24. don't belong, feel free to yourself though
n/t
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:59 PM
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11. What would you have thought of Davis's statement if it had
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 08:26 PM by conservdem
come from the mouth of a repub?

edited for gramar
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:03 PM
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19. its odious coming from anyone, anywhere, anytime
n/t
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:03 PM
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21. I would have thought it was bigoted when considering their policies
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 08:06 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
When considering Davis's policies it is clear he is not a bigot...sorry that is difficult for a conservative dem to get...are you sure you're just a conservative Dem?
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:09 PM
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23. so its OK to make sport of those who elect you
so long as you sign a few bills that benefit them ?

whatever...
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:10 PM
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25. Your article is hearsay not from a transcript and did Arnold elect him?
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 08:11 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
I like the way you twist this.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:52 PM
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3. Good grief...
Naturally, FOX News would cover it, but still...

It's an utterly tasteless comment!

Besides, I'm sure he could have found something scathing to say that wouldn't be offensive to everybody else in the process!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:52 PM
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4. I bet there's a good chance he didn't even say this.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:56 PM
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8. how does Ahnold say California?
gin
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:58 PM
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9. The way I read it
It was in a joking context. Funny how everyone makes fun of Arianna Huffington's accent, but to mention Arnold's is taboo.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:59 PM
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10. Exactly!
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:00 PM
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14. never heard anyone slam her, would have pointed that out if I had
n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:01 PM
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15. arnold sounds like a moron
and arianna is intelligent. it's not arnold's accent that's the problem. it's that he just doesn't know the issues and can't discuss them. arianna knows what she is talking about. also, i have heard many guys say they find her accent to be attractive.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:00 PM
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13. Ahhrgh, . Davis is not perfect and SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE!
I think his statement was stupid however, remember Arnie gropes women's breasts to determine if they are real. :wtf: His 'best friend' says it's OK because the women did not seem to mind.

Look at Davis' record. Not the republican spin. He took on the energy companies. He stopped the rolling black outs. He enacted many farmworker protections against pesticide poisoning that no other Governor supported or enacted. He promoted small classes for elementary children. Californian school children have improved and dropout rates have fallen. I am appaled by some of his fundraising, but I KNOW HE IS BETTER AND HAS MORE INTEGRITY THAN ARNIE AND ISSA AND WILSON AND MCKLINTOCK. I also know if this Republican power grab succeeds it will be duplicated in other states and by Dems in Cali. It will destabilize our democracy.

Vote NO on the recall and yes on Busta
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:01 PM
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16. Sweet fuckin' jesus, get a life
Ahnold pronounces the state like it is something that comes out of the fields in the Salinas valley. That's the god damn basis for what Governor Davis said about this matter. You want to rail on him like he is some sort of bigot. I live in California, and there is an outside chance the condom filled with walnuts could become governor. God damn, talk about trying to twist an issue.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:02 PM
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18. You believe Fox on this - looks like a possible lie to hurt Davis
Where is the source? Read the article, it basically says "someone said that he said to them somewhere".

It looks like it might be made up by Arnold's camp or the right wing media to cause Davis problems.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:03 PM
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20. oh
shut the f*ck up you whiny bastards...

the shit DAVIS has been put through and the incessant bashing he receives, i'm GLAD he said something negative about arnold... the bastard CAN'T speak, MUCH less govern...


GO GRAY!!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:07 PM
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22. I've had it UPTOHERE with people slamming Dems on DU
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:12 PM
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26. so we should just ignore these things ? OK I'll ignore them in future
and I'll remember all these little steps that lead us further backwards.

No problems, I'm over troubling you guys with this meaningless bullshit.
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:22 PM
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27. I hate the way Arnold sounds.
Yes, it sound like cauli-flordia the was he says it.

He is on TV 2-4 times an hour and I hate the way
his voice sounds.

By the way I hate the way Bush sounds too and
his eyes are to close together.

Rush is a big fat idiot.

The BS is deap in here it is really getting up to here.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:27 PM
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30. fabulous
any slams you have against repugs would be welcome.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:23 PM
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28. sometimes you have to fight fire with fire
Republicans and particularly AH-nold are the least classy people in the world. Gray was joking, but feel free to get all insulted on AZ behalf.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:24 PM
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29. Arnold called black people "niggers" repeatedly
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:35 PM
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31. Puts a new slant on his gang bang of a young African American woman, huh?
UGH! The man is a sicko.
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nansocal Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:45 PM
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32. you know what?
maybe it wasn't the smartest thing to say. but arnold made an unpleasant remark against bustamante (critical of his appearance) and alot more unpleasant sexual remarks against women even touching them improperly. which I consider worse ten fold. I'm a californian.
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