Is George Bush the J. Edgar Hoover of American Presidents?

[indigobusiness]

Without the dress, of course...or maybe with...I don't know.



The point is that it's the only parallel example, that I know of, for the way he rides rough-shod over the people and the Constitution.

[robbedvoter]

1. Nope. he is worse. In the future, they'll all be compared to him.

[barb162]

28. yep, lot worse

[Demit]

2. more like the Hoover vacuum.

[Lisa]

16. he certainly does suck, doesn't he!

Sorry -- couldn't resist.

[Cha]

27. I wish I could bring that graphic

of bush sucking the blood out of the Statue Of Liberty with the caption "bush sucks" on board!

[flakey_foont]

3. He's the J. Fred Muggs of

American Presidents is more like it

[indigobusiness]

5. Well, he's no Lancelot Link

[flakey_foont]

6. Agreed

Lamce is higher up the Evolutionary chain

[riverwalker]

4. sucks like a Hoover n/t

[Avalux]

7. No - Warren Harding

A mediocre man who knows the presidency is beyond him; surrounds himself with crooks and liars; prides himself on being liked more than being a good leader. Most historians regard Harding as the worst president in American History. More -

http://history1900s.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanpresident.org%2FKoTrain%2FCourses%2FWH%2FWH_In_Brief.htm

[txaslftist]

8. He's the Herbert Hoover...

[leveymg]

9. No middle-age white man looks good in a dress. Not Hoover, not Chimp

I don't care how much he works out.

Better analogy would be their mutual appetite for buggering the Bill of Rights - no, come to think of it, I don't want to see that cartoon either.

[indigobusiness]

10. LOL...me neither

welcome to DU

[leveymg]

13. Thanks for the Lancelot Link images

and the welcome, indigobusiness. Actually, I had articles posted on DU beginning in 2002, but have only recently been active in the forums. Writing articles take more concentration than I can spare these days.

- Mark

[nostamj]

19. "No middle-age white man looks good in a dress" | EVIDENCE!

[indigobusiness]

25. At least they spared us the miniskirts.

*ouch*

[NoStinkinBadges]

11. Hoover the two chicken president?

[indigobusiness]

12. Welcome to DU

Lots of new faces around here.

[Vidar]

14. Nice comparison, except Hoover pulled his own strings.

[indigobusiness]

15. That's a good point.

The parallel is that Bush thinks he does.

[H2O Man]

17. J Edgar, though

very disturbed, was highly intelligent and a hard worker.

[indigobusiness]

18. Jedgar was shrewd...

and I wish Bush would work less hard. He's a walking catastrophe.

[H2O Man]

20. One thinks of LBJ's use

of the old saying to hold your friends close, and your enemies closer. He was fully aware that JEH knew his enemies much better than they knew him. Compare this to GWB: he does not have a healthy appreciation for his enemies. He doesn't feel that it is worth his time to understand them.

JEH had the remarkable degree of paranoia that it takes to be a great cop. I use the term "great" with a neutral value. GWB lacks this trait to the degree that JEH had it. While we can all have a good giggle about Hoover today, he was an powerful figure in his own right. An evil force, of course. His daddy didn't get him his position in life.

[indigobusiness]

21. Two Potato Johnson?

According to Stephen Colbert, he got that name back when House Democrats were forced to pass a potato from buttcheek to buttcheeck.

Now, I figure J Edgar could've gotten behind that, somehow. But, I don't giggle about his legacy, and when he was living I felt his presence in the air. He was a dark force. One that lasts and lingers to this day. I fear the lingering power of GWB's legacy.

[H2O Man]

22. "Giggling" about JEH

Of course I didn't mean you. I was talking about this younger generation that makes lewd comments about the dresses he wore. J. Edgar never wore cheap and tawdry women's garments. They were his mother's finest dresses! Good Lord, what type of man do they think he was?

On a more serious note, us old & moldy folks remember the days when he not onlt ruled the FBI with an iron fist, but could access the power to move military intel units around the country to deal with a Southern Baptist minister he hated.

If we were to look for JEH-like people in this administration, I suspect it'd be in the VP's office we'd find one.

[indigobusiness]

23. That is a clear parallel

and its reflected image is mirrored in the presidency.

[H2O Man]

24. I've heard it said....

...that VP Cheney is moved to tears whenever he hears Barry Manilow's "Oh! Mandy" played, because it reminds him of slow-dancing with J. Edgar in his finest silk. This same theory holds that it was his love of Hoover that led Cheney to give up on his dream career of being the voice-over in the "Sorry Charlie" tuna commercials. J. Edgar was no lover of tuna. Everything in the universe is tied together.

[orpupilofnature57]

26. Rover can be that agent colson guy,J Edgar's favorite agent , another..

reason R.F.K is my hero, he knew how to keep that little Nazi in check.