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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:54 PM
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What is Judith Miller smoking?
Anyone know anything about her? She just blew off a caller who was concerned about the injured in Iraq by saying that yes, there are injured, but the medical facilities are a lot better now...

THAT IS NOT THE POINT!!!
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:54 PM
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1. sorry, should have said she's on Larry King now
NYTimes writer
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:55 PM
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2. what the caller asked was
why is the media not reporting the injuries, Judith said that they were be reported
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:58 PM
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5. the essence of the caller's point
was that injuries are being glossed over and underemphasized, not that literally no one has mentioned them anywhere. the reply was to gloss them over rather than address the underlying meaning of the caller's question. Pay attention.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:32 AM
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9. Judith Miller has no clue...
Honestly, she's another one that is bad with investigative journalism. On MSNBC (Hardball right after the speech), they were talking about the reporting of the injured. Senate Republicans are asking, "Why is this classified?" Over 1,100 injured. :(

Miller is clueless...she needs new contacts.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:56 PM
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3. Judith Miller
is a writer for the NYT that makes Jason Blair look like a Pulitzer Prize winner when it comes to telling the truth.

She was one of the main conduits for spreading misinformation from Chalabi that convinced the public that Saddam had a vast arsenal of WMD's and was an iminent threat to the US.

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:07 PM
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6. Wasn't she the one reported to be bossing the troops around
I read somewhere that during the invasion (or shortly after, ahem, the end of major combat operations) she ran around Iraq with her own squad of US troops searching for WMD. Even though she was officialy just another in-bed reporter, she apparently acted as if she were a frickin commissioned officer giving orders to the troops and telling them what to do, where to go etc. and it was noted that the soldiers under her "command" did seem to be taking directions from her.

It looks like some dick head Pentagon General believed all the lies she was printing in the NYT about Saddam's WMD and figured she had some inside scoop on where they might be, so they probably told the troops to do what she said in the belief that she really could lead them to the invisible WMDs.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:06 AM
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16. Judith Miller's loss of journalistic integrity:
item 1: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A39280-2003May25?language=printer

washingtonpost.com
Intra-Times Battle Over Iraqi Weapons


By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, May 26, 2003; Page C01


A dustup between two New York Times reporters over a story on an Iraqi exile leader raises some intriguing questions about the paper's coverage of the search for dangerous weapons thought to be hidden by Saddam Hussein.

An internal e-mail by Judith Miller, the paper's top reporter on bioterrorism, acknowledges that her main source for such articles has been Ahmad Chalabi, a controversial exile leader who is close to top Pentagon officials. Could Chalabi have been using the Times to build a drumbeat that Iraq was hiding weapons of mass destruction?

The Chalabi connection surfaced when John Burns, the paper's Pulitzer Prize-winning Baghdad bureau chief, scolded Miller over her May 1 story on the Iraqi without clearing it with him.

------------snip--------------
Miller replied to Burns: "I've been covering Chalabi for about 10 years, and have done most of the stories about him for our paper, including the long takeout we recently did on him. He has provided most of the front page exclusives on WMD to our paper."
(salin's note - the underline is my emphasis)

-------read the whole article.

A related article on this point appeared in Slate
http://slate.msn.com/id/2083736/


item 2: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A28385-2003Jun24?language=printer

washingtonpost.com
Embedded Reporter's Role In Army Unit's Actions Questioned by Military


By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, June 25, 2003; Page C01


New York Times reporter Judith Miller played a highly unusual role in an Army unit assigned to search for dangerous Iraqi weapons, according to U.S. military officials, prompting criticism that the unit was turned into what one official called a "rogue operation."

More than a half-dozen military officers said that Miller acted as a middleman between the Army unit with which she was embedded and Iraqi National Congress leader Ahmed Chalabi, on one occasion accompanying Army officers to Chalabi's headquarters, where they took custody of Saddam Hussein's son-in-law. She also sat in on the initial debriefing of the son-in-law, these sources say.

------------snip-------------
In April, Miller wrote a letter objecting to an Army commander's order to withdraw the unit, Mobile Exploitation Team Alpha, from the field. She said this would be a "waste" of time and suggested that she would write about it unfavorably in the Times. After Miller took up the matter with a two-star general, the pullback order was dropped.
------------snip-------------

One military officer, who says that Miller sometimes "intimidated" Army soldiers by invoking Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld or Undersecretary Douglas Feith, was sharply critical of the note. "Essentially, she threatened them," the officer said, describing the threat as that "she would publish a negative story."

An Army officer, who regarded Miller's presence as "detrimental," said: "Judith was always issuing threats of either going to the New York Times or to the secretary of defense. There was nothing veiled about that threat," this person said, and MET Alpha "was allowed to bend the rules."

----- much more in the full article.

Salin's note: somewhere along the line Ms. Miller crossed the line that journalists are wont to do - from objectively reporting the news to actually working towards creating the news. Odd that the Jason Blair story blew up at about the same time - and IT got the coverage - while this was a mere footnote.

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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:57 PM
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4. Yeah, she's bad news
Said no question that Saddam was hiding WMD's. Notice her big apology now that none have been found. . . what? no apology?
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:07 PM
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7. What ever it is
she has been smoking it for a long time since she was completely duped by the Iraqi exiles and the administration on the existence (actually the lack thereof) of WMDs in Iraq.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:13 PM
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8. she looked very nervous to me
Prolly afraid that some caller would nail her for her treasonous activities.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:37 AM
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10. She was also one of the last people David Kelly called (or emailed)
before he called it a life.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:40 AM
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11. Text of E-mail:
Fuck you.

DK
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:56 AM
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14. Actually, the opposite. He called her a close friend.
.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:12 AM
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18. Sorry.
That was MY e-mail. Won't happen again.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:08 AM
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17. Different Judith Miller. Kelly called a Brit scientist with the same name
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:16 AM
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19. For real?
I remember the story and references to the NYT Judith Miller, though that never made sense (how would a NYT reporter - specializing in the middle east, be closely connected to a scientist in Britain working for UK intelligence?). But I have never seen/read that the email was to a different Judith Miller.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:49 AM
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12. Karl Rove's pole.
apparently
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waggawagga Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:52 AM
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13. She Works for the NYTimes, What Did You Expect?
Edited on Mon Sep-08-03 12:53 AM by waggawagga
The problem with NY Times reporters is that they get so comfortable mingling with public officials that they come to take on their biases. It's a weird combination of the "Stockholm Syndrome" and the "Bloomingdales Effect" (the tendancy of clerks in expensive stores to become snooty even though they're making eight bucks an hour). Especially true of "beat" reporters (and she's one).
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:05 AM
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15. Ahmad Chalabi
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