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OutsourceBush Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:40 PM
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Evangelicals Take Advantage of Tsunami Orphans, Prompt Restrictions
"Many major religious charities forbid their workers from proselytizing, but a few lesser-known evangelical groups are presenting the tsunami fund-raising efforts as a chance to convert people to Christianity."

These bastards have no morals what so ever.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050114/ap_on_re_us/tsunami_orphans
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:46 PM
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1. Preaching to them before you feed them is not Christianity
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:50 PM
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3. Nor is it charity.
It is advertising and promotion.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:50 PM
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2. Can't say which groups are doing this but --
-- if they can be identified, it would please me if they could be summarily stuffed into the maws of hammerhead sharks.

And sooner would be better than later.

This is blasphemy against their own goddam faith and an assault on the integrity of other people.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:52 PM
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4. The problem with these people is that they are always trying to sell you..
...on their way of thinking. If you are seeking (like I generally am) or when you are at a vulnerable point. That is the problem I have. Instead of showing how great Christians and Christ are with sympathy and genuine caring, they use sanctimony.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:56 PM
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5. They do this everywhere.
Some did in Iraq and rememebr those woman in Afghanistan, the americans who were held by the Taliban for doing just that? And people wonder why we are hated, that imo is one of the reasons. How would these same people feel is Muslims trued to convert them?
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OutsourceBush Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:24 PM
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7. Can you picture a bunch of Muslims showing up in NY after 911
wanting to convert survivors and survivors children to Islam in exchange for any charity?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:27 PM
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8. i can only imagine. what pisses me off is that they really aren't
there to just help, it comes with strings and thats not very Christian imo. If you want to help than just help.
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StoryTeller Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:00 PM
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9. You do not know or understand what you are talking about.
Those women (and two men, I think) were friends and co-workers of some friends of mine who were also in Afghanistan at that time. They LOVE the people of Afghanistan and gave up the comfortable lifestyle here because they wanted to help the Afghani people. I heard Dayna and Heather speak a few months after they returned home, and their lives were profoundly touched by the street orphans they helped feed, and the women who came to their house to visit and to receive supplies. Their first priority was to show compassion on the poor, needy, and homeless. They did not prosyletize, and they were very careful to show respect toward the religion of those they were serving.

They were set up by the Taliban. One young man, who was manipulated by the Taliban officials, asked them to talk about Jesus and show the Jesus Film. A person from a different NGO happened to have the film on CD in the Pushtin language and gave them the copy. The man reported back to the Taliban after he saw the CD and that's when they were arrested. I'm not saying that they did not want to talk about their faith, but they weren't pushing it at people. They waited until they were asked, which seems fair. And even if they'd never been asked, they would have continued serving and helping the people.

You can't judge one group of people by the actions of another. I have nothing but respect for people who are willing to give up their privileged existence to live in a foreign, hostile country that is one of the poorest in the world, and that treated women like property. They risked their lives because they believe that Jesus taught that we should care for the poor, the widows, and the orphans. They lived out their beliefs, even when it looked like they might die because of it. When you have gone and done as they did, when you understand the situation like they do, then maybe you have the right to pass judgement on their actions. Until then, I would respectfully suggest that it would be better to not be so quick to speak.

I would encourage you to read their story. You can look at it on Amazon at this link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0385507836/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-3860497-1387309#reader-link
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:47 AM
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10. With respect, StoryTeller, it may give you pause that --
-- some of us do know what we're talking about on this subject.

I don't have to volunteer for missionary work to understand abominable, unethical conduct when I see it.

A 4-year old could discern the problem with these cretinous assholes making tsunami victims beg for food.

Why would you spring to their defense like this, except to promote your own fundamentalist agenda? Leaving your personal Jesus out of the equation would go a long way toward an understanding and mutual respect.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:58 PM
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6. Hello little boy
I'll give you some food if you except Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:57 AM
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11. Why dont they molest the children too?
SARASOTA, Fla. - The principal of a small Christian school was convicted of sexually molesting a female student.

The Rev. Jerry Lee Pitts, 38, was found guilty Thursday of lewd and lascivious battery and molestation. He faces up to 15 years in prison when sentenced later.

Pitts, of North Port, sat stunned as the clerk read the verdict.

Pitts started a sexual relationship with a former Living Water Academy student who was 15 at the time. The girl is now 17.

The victim testified that she started attending the school in March 2002. Shortly afterward, Pitts sexually assaulted her in his wife's office, in a trailer parked on school grounds and in the computer lab.
(snip/...)

http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/local/1...
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:02 PM
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12. kick
:kick:
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