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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:18 PM
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The Anthrax killer has never been found, but neither has the Tylenol
Killer of 1982 chicago.
Link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tylenol_scare

My husband pointed out that this was terrorism, too. Isn't it interesting that nobody has been caught? In either case?
And, even more interesting, there have been no real copycat killers in the Anthrax case, although there were many copycat killers after Tylenol.

My husband said he thinks the anthrax scare was caused by a Republican. I'm not so sure.
I think maybe it was a terroristic act.

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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:23 PM
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1. They did figure out the '86 Excedrin killer, though
http://www.hbo.com/autopsy/episode/episode_7_the_stella_nickells_case.html

I still think the anthrax attack was caused by the scientist that was the center of the case for a while, even though they dropped him as a suspect.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:26 PM
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2. That's a good one, Yes I remember it.
Talk about a dumb criminal. She would have gotten away with murder, but her greed did her in.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:42 PM
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4. Did you notice on that antrhax thing, how the anthrax spores/dust
kept getting finer and finer with each mailing? Like the killer was sending it along as he worked on the batch. That means the anthrax killer had a place to work with the stuff over a period of time without being interrupted. What place can you work this freely with something as dangerous as anthrax without being disturbed?

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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:59 PM
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8. I'm not sure that's true
I think Tom Ridge kept being forced to admit they were finer each time something new happened.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:22 PM
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14. Sounds like you have some inside information.
Care to divulge a source?
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zacho Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:41 PM
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3. Who would want to blame the anthrax scare on terrorists?
Who would want to scare several liberal people and media organizations?

Rove and company would. That's who. They pieced the whole anthrax scare together, and if we can prove it, the Bush dynasty will be brought to justice.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:46 PM
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6. The dead giveaway is the photo editor of the Star/Nat. Inq./etc
Notice no more Bush twin pictures at the check-out stand?
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:48 PM
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7. Yep, Rove. n/t
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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:23 AM
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21. Remember the Reich Stag? Who Did that? What did it Accomplish?
1. Aerosolized Weapons Grade Anthrax, matched to U.S. BioWeapons Lab production
2. Packing-i.e. placed in envelopes- at various differing times-work could only have been done in a secure, contamination proof location,
wearing secure protective clothing
3. Transportation-from packing site to mailbox-if the envelopes leaked in the mail system, than just transporting them from the
packing site to the mail box was done in a highly controlled , protective manner
4. Targets- none were valued Neocon People- they were picked as to their value in attracting public notice thus creating massive fear for the Scare America Campaign- collateral damage, i.e. non-targeted victims were valuable because they represented Joe Everyday Citizen
5. Post Office Employees- viewed by the NeoCons as the lowest on the Federal Employee Rating Scale- exceptionally expendable
6. Inquirer Editor- If indeed he did write stories about the Cyclone Sisters, than he was a definite Payback Target
Mission Evaluation:
1. Extremely Low Chance of Tracing,Exposure, and getting caught
2. Costs- Extremely Low vs. the results
3. Access to the Weapons used- easily within the Reach of High Security Clearance Level Administration Operatives
4. Personnel Involved- Minimal
5. Effort Needed- minimal
6. History of Chemical/ Bio Weapons used by the military on the American Public-
A. During the '60's- MDA was distributed by the Army to Hippies in San Francisco
B. There have been other cases, I do not know of them at the moment
7. Purpose/Ultimate Goal- To make every American Joe Citizen believe that they are unprotected targets of Terrorists anytime, anyplace in America- To promote Mass Hysteria and Fear- to Scare the BeJesus out of the American Public, thus paving the Way in passing into law and enforcement of highly Repressive, Draconian, Unconstitutional laws controlling every aspect of American life.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:45 PM
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5. the "terrorists" only targeted DEMS
and the MEDIA?

(and the one who was actually KILLED (from the media) was associated with publication of BushTwinsSleaze?)

if Lott, Specter, Delay, Hasturd, etc. (or Rush, Hannity, Blankley, Novak) had been targeted, do you think we'd have an investigation?
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:01 PM
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9. To be factually correct
an elderly woman was also killed by cross-contamination.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:14 PM
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12. it's factually correct to say she wasn't targeted. n/t
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:20 PM
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13. That's why I said cross-contamination.
But whatever. Let's talk about supervillain earthquake machines some more.
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:12 PM
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10. remember the Nairobi connection?
We never head another word after this story broke....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/anthrax/story/0,1520,576936,00.html
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:12 PM
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11. I agree with your husband..
the fact that it was Tom Daschle's office and spread to Feingold's staff just seemed fishy to me, these are two people the Republican's were really trying to get rid of. They really went after Feingold this past year here in Wisconsin, they underestimated how popular he is...and the private home of that old lady, either a mistake or to incite general panic...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:49 PM
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15. Jerome Hauer is my suspect numero uno and he's in charge of US bio-
defense.

Tommy Thompson hired Hauer from SAIC on 9-10-2001! Hauer and Thompson promoted the use of the anti-anthrax drug Cipro (made by I.G. Farben knock-off, Bayer) immediately after 9/11-but well before the anthrax attacks!:grr:

As Tommy Thompson bragged about his negotiating skills against Bayer in a 300,000,000 dose Cipro deal, innocent US Postal Service employees were exposed to anthrax and working in HOT ZONES!:mad::puke::argh:

Jerome Hauer gets my vote for a closer inspection of the anthrax attacks suspects.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:01 PM
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16. since the anthrax came from u.s. military base
and only went after specific journalists going after bush and democrats,..........
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:03 PM
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17. And CHERTOFF Was Head of the Anthrax "Investigation" n/t
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:05 PM
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18. Bada-bing!
Good one, I didn't know that.
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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 11:48 AM
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22. How do you know Chertoff Headed the "Investigation"
Are there any links etc ??
Of course, at the time, Chertoff was pretty much unknown , outside of New Jersey
If you are correct, this makes the whole scenario much more interesting
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:18 PM
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19. It was. But the terrorists were, as usual, the Bush administration
What Really Happened website has insisted for years that it was a Jewish guy (I forget his name) who was videotaped entering the secured area on the military base where the anthrax came from after he had been fired for racial insults to a Muslim co-worker.

Don't know. All I know is that, like 9-11, this administration is trying as hard as it can not to investigate. What does that say?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:23 PM
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20. I remember when that happened, that was horrible.
And right after that you couldn't buy pills that were capsules. Sad.
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