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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:18 PM
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Mark my word: Bush will pull out of Iraq with civil war in Iraq!
You DUers mark my word!

After the Iraqi elections, we will begin pulling out of Iraq. Right now the public perception is about 50/50 on why we went to war. Just this week the adminstration pulled their inspectors from iraq with absolutely no evidence of banned weapons.

Americans are split evenly on why we went to Iraq. They will soon demand a withdrawal.

The President will then state that the Iraqis must find their own peace and fight for their own freedom.

Iraq will go into a civil war, but we Americans will not ever question why we went there in the first place.

Half of America is one *&^%ed up group of people.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:19 PM
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1. I agree, BUT
I think our troops will just get shuffled off to the new enemy du jour.

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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:43 PM
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5. Yes, probably Iran or Syria. n/t
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:20 PM
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2. mission accomplished
Edited on Thu Jan-13-05 11:22 PM by dweller
there ya go. What has that *moron ever attempted that didn't end up fuuuucked up beyond repair?

dp
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:27 PM
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3. Just keep your eye on the oil contracts. We didn't go through all
this for democracy. When US oil companies have control of the oil, we may pull out. Depends on how hard he wants Iran.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:32 PM
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4. It was not about the oil, but the oil infrastructure.
The wells, the pipelines, the distribution. Remember the early Bremer edicts about foreigners being able to purchase government owned industries? If you can't control the infrastructure, you can't control the oil. At this point, it's a lost cause.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:17 AM
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12. But we can't control it OR the pipelines without thousands of troops.
Does anyone actually believe the Iraqis would 'do the job' for us if we had no military presence? Hell we can't even keep it running WITH 150,000. The "elections" are just a diversion...it doesn't really even matter who "wins", we will make sure that whoever's willing to do 'bidness' with Exxon, etc. will be putatively in charge...
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 12:15 AM
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13. Bingo. You've go the picture.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 12:48 AM
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15. Does this suggest that this admin thinks the Shia are more
willing to do bidness with Americans than the sunni?

Hussein was a Sunni, OBL is a sunni, I think the Saudis are Sunni Wahabists...

Would this admin have known that the Shia would be willing to bleed Iraqi oil to the U.S. if they knocked out Hussien?

I'm getting confused, because the Iranians are Shia and alot of them seem to hate our guts. Except Chalabi, of course.
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:43 PM
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6. I totally agree with you, and have thought the same thing
for a long time. He will just leave it up in the air, and a total mess, and say that we accomplished what we set out to do, 'freedom', ad nauseum. Noone will question the outcome, and will say that it was a success. Next country please... :mad:
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:48 PM
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7. we might pull out but
Some troops will stay. In a little over a year troops will be stationed in Iraq at bases set up around the oil fields and pipelines. These bases will grow to be some of the largest bases the US has.
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electric-eye Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:49 PM
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8. People dying by the tens of thousands for HIS FUCKING LIES
All last year he said "stay the course" to critics. Lied and Lied on a continual basis while things spiraled downward for EVERYBODY in Iraq (except the profiteers, the theives). "Not going to cut and run" he said.

He didn't want to risk his "re-election" by cutting and running, so he let people continue to DIE for the mere political benifit . Now its all the talk, just weeks after our "election." How damn many levels of sickness, evilness, does this gang operate on?

What this will boil down to is this: bushica invaded, plundered, and wrecked a nation and a society while lying to us and our representatives to do so. They subverted democracy here in order to rape there. 100,00 + God's children Slaughered while they siezed control of the nation's resources. Die Die Die brave troops and wicked brown people. Now they plan to leave the nation in ruins and chaos.

My God its so damn obvious. bushco just stole OUR military to pull off an armed robbery - 01/2005 - Mission Accomplished.

Those bastards should be tired by our Congress and Supreme Court, and then handed over to the World Court.

People that support this lying, stealing, murdering gang of thugs
at this point are as guilty as those they worship.

Justice is crying.

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FM Arouet666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:57 PM
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9. Eventually, you will be correct
However, in the short term the administration has no intention of leaving. They never have. With time, the U.S. public will grow weary of the Iraqi misadventure and we will have to pull out. Civil war will be the ultimate result.

I fear that we will have to endure years of a puppet Iraqi government replete with scandal and impotence. Bush probably won't be in power when it all falls apart, but it will be his legacy. Unless of course, republican pundits are able to spin the blame onto Clinton.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 12:50 AM
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16. if alla sudden they pass that third term bill, get suspicious.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:03 AM
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10. Bush crime family hatchet man, James Baker, suggested the same thing
this morning.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:05 AM
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11. Absolutely not.
The neocons won't leave Iraq before the neocons leave Washington.

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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 12:30 AM
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14. I don't think we leave until chimp leaves office
Even as the country becomes more disillusioned with war Bush will not pull out. He is there for oil and a base of operations in the Persian Gulf. We will leave Saudi Arabia before we leave Iraq. No amount of blood will sway chimp. No outcry from the American people will change his policies. The wave of the American Century will break on the sands of Iraq. In four years the US will be broke and defeated, the dollar worthless and democracy gone from the face of the earth. Welcome to Hell , folks.
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