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Fri Jan-14-05 03:56 PM
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If I had lost a loved one in Britain in WWII by German bombing... |
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I'd be just as offended by Prince Harry as any Jewish person.
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Fri Jan-14-05 03:59 PM
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Didn't think about that. Sometimes we forget the others that were killed by the Nazis too.
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:03 PM
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3. It will never be forgotten. 40 million people died. |
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:59 PM
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Cambodia - nobody did a thing
Darfur - same
Rwanda - same
Congo - do you know about 2 million folks have died in that war in recent years
Partition of India/Pakistan - huge atrocities on both side
Unfortunately, "never again" is a pious joke to most in power
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:07 PM
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4. "Very few are racists today" ? |
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What utopia are YOU living in?! I want to move THERE.
I think racism is pervasive although very few racists will own up to it.
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:11 PM
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7. I can never understand people who trivialize what is hateful and |
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wrong. Get over it. Very few racists. I wish. I despair for the world sometimes.
I grew up with Jim Crow. I had family hurt by the Nazis. I remember what it felt like to be marginalized. Maybe things ARE too easy for some or they just don't really get it. Live in aparteid or Jim Crow, watch injustice without the slightest hope of every getting any, be on the fringes, have to step into the gutter to let others pass on the curb, ask about relatives in pictures and be told they were made into soap, lose the only life you have to a systematic repression, I guess you have to experience -some peope- the hatred and evil to understand it and how easy it is to come back.
Do you really believe that fascism can't happen here? That there won't be camps for innocent people to be imprisoned in for the entirety of their lives? Its happening here. Bush has his own gulag. He's torturing people. Can't happen here? Get over it?
Not in my lifetime.
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:15 PM
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Just one example. A few years ago when I worked in a toy store and I saw a woman scream at her daughter "I'm not buying you a fucking nigger doll." Of course when she saw me she shut up and when she came to my register she was extra polite and said I was "really articulate." Racism is alive and well it's just more underground than it use to be.
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:33 PM
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19. LOL - if utopia is willingly putting you're head in the sand... /eom |
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:08 PM
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You don't really believe that, do you?
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:10 PM
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or i would not have said it.
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:12 PM
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:18 PM
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:31 PM
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18. Gee, what country do you live in? |
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Ever hear of the "culture wars"? Just more code speak for racism. Have you been down south lately? My last trip through Tennesse showed me that the latest fashion craze for the backcountry boys is a T-shirt emblazoned with a Confederate flag, with the caption "Its a white thing, you wouldn't understand". Do you remember the whole flap over the Monday Night football intro with Terrel Owens and some Desparate Housewives star? Do you think that people would have been screaming so much if it didn't depict an interracial couple? Of course not, for otherwise how would the soaps stay on the air?
Racism is alive and well in this country friend. Yes, yes, it isn't the outfront, in your face racism of fifty years ago, but instead it has become much more subtle. I'm white, and I see it amongst my fellow red state citizens all of the time. I don't know where you live, but if there is truly that little racism where you live, I think that you had better keep quiet about it, otherwise you're going to have a few million people flooding your town next week.
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:35 PM
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22. No, now they drag them behind pickup trucks |
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:51 PM
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30. Sorry, it isn't "just a mind thing" friend, no, not at all |
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Look at the prison system, and the inequities of how the death penalty is applied along racial lines. Look at the disparity in the employment figures, not only how many of each race is employed, but what jobs they get, how much they get paid, and how quickly they get let go when the economy turns south. Hell, back in the eighties our very own government let the scourge of crack cocaine loose on, not whites, but no, amongst the African Americans in South Central.
Being polite is just a cover for people now, just like the token members of the Republican party. I agree that to a small extent racism has lessoned, a little bit. But for the most part, racism has just morphed, becoming more subtle, harder to catch than in the bad old days of Jim Crow.
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:46 PM
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27. Wrong friend, there was a lynching in Springfield Mo about five years ago |
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They found this African American kid strung up from a radio tower in Springfield. Of couse the cops, being the incompentent, racist bastards that they are, did absolutely nothing except to state that it must have been a suicide, despite the fact that from the coroner's report, and eyewitnesses, it was virtually impossible for the kid to get himself hung and wind up in the position he was in. Oh, and the kid was dating a white girl, and by all accounts the family, father and big sons absolutely hated that fact. Hmmm.
And while it wasn't a hanging, what was the name of the African American gentleman who was dragged to death in Texas?
And then there is the stats and the inequity of the application of the death penalty to consider. Amazing how skewed our justice system is to killing African Americans, eh?
Think about it friend, then get back to me.
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:12 PM
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8. "Very few are racists today! |
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Insert 1950's sitcom laugh track here.
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:13 PM
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10. I just know you gotta be joking. |
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Very few racists today?
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:58 PM
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32. disappointing to see on this board |
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:16 PM
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((((((((hug))))))))
Yes it is.
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:18 PM
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bad week huh? :( so much for the start of the freaking new year
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:16 PM
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12. Same country, new niggers |
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You just don't get it. Until the white people in this country take a long cold look at our "moral values" and how spreading religion and freedom to the heathens has allowed us to justify slaughtering millions of people, it will never be OVER. That's why these right wing nutballs support invading Iraq, the delusion of white christian superiority. Will America ever make the turn? :cry:
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:19 PM
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14. At least now you say "Blacks". In the other thread you said "Colored". |
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:33 PM
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20. "They have gone from niggers to negroes....." |
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Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 04:36 PM by Bluebear
>>they have gone from niggers, to Negroes, to blacks, to African-Americans to who knows what's next --- I love em all, but pick one... they get mad at all of em... unless THEY are doing the talking.<<
Well, goodness I bet that niggers to Negroes was a big step for "them" right there.
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:45 PM
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Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 04:45 PM by Bluebear
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:07 PM
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36. "Oh well.. nuff said for me on the subject." |
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:29 PM
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45. They didn't know how prescient their comment was! |
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Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 05:29 PM by Bluebear
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:36 PM
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47. Yes, you have certainly said quite enough |
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Not many minority groups left to insult.
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:02 PM
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34. Wherever did you get that impression? |
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Racism is RAMPANT in this country, in the world for that matter. :eyes:
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:31 PM
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46. You're on the ditt-monkey side |
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of every debate. Why is that?
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:27 PM
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16. and if I had had someone |
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killed in the firebombing of Dresden or tokyo, I'd be just as sickened at the sight of an American or British military insignia, wouldn't you?
Actually, I lost an ancestor in the Revolutionary War, and just the other day I saw someone in a red coat, almost killed them.
come now, war is war, people die. To put it on the same page as the atrocity of the holocaust is simply wrong.
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:42 PM
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:29 PM
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17. Another great media beat up again... |
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Only because it was Prince Harry. It was a fancy dress party after all! What about TV shows like Hogan's Heroes and Allo' Allo', making light of Nazis and so on.
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:50 PM
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29. "It's all okay until we want to fight" |
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Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 04:50 PM by Bluebear
Fight what?
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:56 PM
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31. One another on a Board etc... |
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We laff about such programs etc, but when we get serious, we show the real side of how we think... (we as in general populous)....
Y'all hafta chat amongst yourselves now... wife is home with Subway sandwiches!! Hehehe... have a good one...
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:07 PM
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35. Until WE want to fight WHAT? |
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WTF are you talking about?
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:22 PM
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41. PS How is Queer eye and Will & Grace for "the gays"? |
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Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 05:23 PM by Bluebear
You speak too much about groups, "the gays" "the blacks"....
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:14 PM
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38. there have been US vet groups vehemently opposed to Hogan's Heroes |
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when it first ran and when it was later rerun and rerun and rerun..
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:11 PM
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Boy, the bigots and border-line bigots have come out of the woodwork over this topic! Some aren't even masking it! How are we, as a party, to get any where, when we have people in our party who do not believe that ALL people are equal?! I am so saddened by what I have seen here today.
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:22 PM
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42. No kidding! My alert-finger is gettting sore |
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from all the bigot alerting I've done just in the last 10 minutes.
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:26 PM
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43. try to see the positive |
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I see this as sad, but very eye-opening. Wouldn't it be nice if people could be like your avatar? It doesn't matter what species (race), we are in this together and we need one another. :)
BTW, I so love that picture!
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Fri Jan-14-05 06:15 PM
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50. I love that picture too |
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and at least when people are loose at the mouth and let their bigoted selves be known, we can alert on them and possibly cull them from our herd of (mostly) normal, rational, compassionate adults.
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Fri Jan-14-05 05:28 PM
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Once again. For all you do, especially this one!
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Fri Jan-14-05 06:17 PM
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51. any human being would be disgusted... |
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