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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:32 AM
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How many folks do you know that fell for THIS Conspiracy Theory?
WMD's in Iraq...:scared:

:tinfoilhat:



:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:


:hi:

I have lots and lots of friends and relatives that fell for it ...

hook, line, and sinker!
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frogfromthenorth2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:34 AM
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1. Are you telling me that there were no WMD? Holy shit...
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:36 AM
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2. What's a WMD?
I am more worried that Social Security is out of money and sometime this year my 75 year old Mom is going to be eating Alpo because they won't be able to send her any more checks.

That's what our GREAT leader said this mornng.

And has he EVER been wrong?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:36 AM
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3. And remember, WMD begins with "W"
Good point, BamaBecky.

When we wear it, it isn't a tinfoil hat, it's a bullshit detector. :D
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:39 AM
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4. that's another good point!
:bounce:
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:40 AM
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5. actually "they" wore they wore the "tin foil hat"!
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:51 AM
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9. But its in the form of
Republican helmets like Trent Lott's.




Nothing penetrates these layers of hairspray.

Not truth, not fairness, nothing.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:54 AM
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11. how right you are!
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:12 AM
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19. Gee
and the media made sarcastic comments about the hairspray that Kerry and Edwards used during the campaign? Jay Leno had a joke about the Kerry/Edwards plane being named Hair Force One.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:48 AM
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6. What the hell does this
have to do with warning stickers inside science books? Stick to the important issues!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 01:28 PM
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18. f'in Cobb county GA, I lived there for 7 years
hell on earth...simply the perfect storm of ignorant rednecks, suburban moms driving Suburban trucks, and a viral racist strain as a result of heavy KKK influence. This is the county that has the city, Kennesaw, which passed a mandatory gun law. This is the county that tried to outlaw GLBT from living there, this the county that is now tried stupidify their kids textbooks. These people need to fucking get a life.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:49 AM
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7. Well...
I don't remember anyone getting all excited and advocating invading Iraq because "they've got WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!"" I remember, instead, a lot of passive people just going along. What I heard more of was: "I don't care what they've got... any excuse to kick raghead ass is good enough for me." Puke!! And in the midst of all that frothing, strangely, Bush comes out and says something like, "Islam is a religion of peace". Huh???

My feeling at the time was: So the f*** WHAT if they've got "weapons of mass destruction"?? Who cares?? WE'VE GOT NUKES, for Chrissake!!!

At the time I didn't know how weak Iraq really was. But I certainly didn't view them as any sort of threat.

And, I mean, for all those years we were told that the Soviet Union was this big threat. (Turned out that wasn't true, for most of those years, but at the time many of us believed it.) Yet I didn't see us invading THEM.

Even before the Iraq invasion, I was so totally sick of hearing that stupid phrase, anyway. "Weapons of MASH DESTRUCTION". That's how Junior would say it.

In the end, all wars are built on stupid lies like this anyway. But this one was certainly the most blatantly stupid (in our lifetime).

The people who believe this sort of swill are the ones who wear the "tin foil hats". THEY are the ones who are "crazy conspiracy theorists". The people who question this sort of shit are the rational ones.
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 12:02 PM
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12. re:invading
And, I mean, for all those years we were told that the Soviet Union was this big threat. (Turned out that wasn't true, for most of those years, but at the time many of us believed it.) Yet I didn't see us invading THEM.

That's just it. Once a country has nukes we won't risk invading. In that it was our intent to invade Iraq a long time ago we would make sure they didn't possess anything threatening.(Weapons inspections,years of infrastructure bombing)
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 12:46 PM
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15. Right! It was just imperialism, nothing more. A bully sees a
weakness, and goes for it.

There's NOTHING "defensive" about that. For starters, we should change the name of the Department of Defense back to "Department of War". And Rumsfeld is the Secretary of War.
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franksumatra Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:49 AM
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8. Poor, deluded Conspiracy Theorists
where do the all come from, where do they all belong?
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:51 AM
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10. Dick Cheney did, the VP of the US.
...and most of the people in my neighborhood. Still believe it...and now they are calling Hussein a WMD. I just politely ask "and where did he get said WMD?" No response.

Moral of the story:

Never argue with a liberal. We are just too well informed.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 12:03 PM
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13. Um, no. Cheney INVENTED this conspiracy theory. The others fell for it.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 01:19 PM
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17. True enough, but frankly I would give more credit
to Rove for the inventing of the theory. Cheney just told it over and over and over.
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:31 AM
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21. Seems Cheney has Selective Amnesia...
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 01:32 AM by KaliTracy
Dick Cheney has been quoted more than once against the US going in the Middle East. In 1991, he was quoted in the New York Times, on April 13 that

“If you're going to go in and try to topple Saddam Hussein, you have to go to Baghdad. Once you've got Baghdad, it's not clear what you do with it. It's not clear what kind of government you would put in place of the one that's currently there now. Is it going to be a Shia regime, a Sunni regime or a Kurdish regime? Or one that tilts toward the Baathists, or one that tilts toward the Islamic fundamentalists? How much credibility is that government going to have if it's set up by the United States military when it's there? How long does the United States military have to stay to protect the people that sign on for that government, and what happens to it once we leave?”**

and more recently in an interview in 1996

“...if Saddam wasn't there, his successor probably wouldn't be notably friendlier to the United States than he is. I also look at that part of the world as of vital interest to the United States; for the next hundred years it's going to be the world's supply of oil. We've got a lot of friends in the region. We're always going to have to be involved there. Maybe it's part of our national character, you know, we like to have these problems nice and neatly wrapped up, put a ribbon around it. You deploy a force, you win the war, and the problem goes away, and it doesn't work that way in the Middle East; it never has and isn't likely to in my lifetime”**


**(Quoted Information courtesy of Slate’s “Chatterbox” --- article by Timothy Noah
Posted Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 4:53 PM PT) http://slate.msn.com/id/2072609
(Used these quotes in a letter I sent to my Representatives prior to the war... Fat lot of good that did....)
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 12:03 PM
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14. It turns out . . .
. . . the only WMDs in Iraq were the Depleted Uranium bombs we dropped.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 12:48 PM
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16. Most of the media.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:16 AM
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20. don't forget the matter of emphasis (al quaeda and Iraq)
It really is a testimony to the weakness of the democratic party leadership that these two things are not being called conspiracy theories repetively by every single elected democratic official and that they are not meme-ing him to pieces as a conspiracy theorist.

I know the repukes own the media, but why don't the dems even TRY to counter it when they have such obvious ammo. We here on the internet can only do so much.

Every one of them should have shown up for the opening day of the 109th congress wearing a shirt that said "1300 American soldiers dead over a conspiracy theory".
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Senator Lamb Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:33 AM
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22. me
the 2000 election was the first election i paid attention to since I was in High School at the time and more aware of current affairs. I was a strong Gore supporter and even more so when Lieberman was added to the ticket, since I was Jewish. i was more conservative dem though.

then 9/11 happened, and i began to listen to take radio and became zombie even joining the college republicans. i supported the war given all this information, which is now lies.

I will never be a republican again, and i am moving further to the left. dems dont feel bad, many people will see the facts and turn away like i did.

Im still so angry, I debated my friends using Dubyas facts and statistics, I was played. never again. all those days i listen to hannity and promised of an immentent danger. never again, never again.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:40 AM
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23. well, I'm sorry.
I really am.

I don't know what makes some people swing to the right because of things like 9/11 while others of us get upset that W. shooed off the 8/6/01 report because he was on vacation, and that he sat reading "My pet goat" while the towers burned.

I'm comforted to know it was only temporary insanity for you.
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AngelAsuka Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:44 AM
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24. Weapons of Mash Destruction?
I thought we found out that was true. The Iraqi's had some yummy drink that put Jack Daniel's Mash to shame, didn't they? :)

~~AA~~
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