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bobweaver Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:00 AM
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I love how Peter Jennings always refers to "Mr. Bush," not "President Bush
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:03 AM
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1. Maybe he'll be even more honest and say "The War Criminal"
in the future...


One can only hope for honesty?
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:42 AM
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13. off the subject...
why boycott Unilever and Half-time pizza? curious
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 06:51 PM
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44. Half Time Pizza


Unilever dropped Whoopie G. because she said some inappropriate things about *. How anybody can say anything inappropriate about Satan is beyond me...
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 07:03 PM
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45. whoa.. very good to know. thx!
I noticed the quality of your posts a while ago, btw. thanks for that too
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:40 PM
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26. Thanks For Sharing MP3
Love it!
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 05:13 PM
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43. I love it!!!
:kick:
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:05 AM
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2. YUP!!!!
I like it too, but I won't capitalize the mr, bush, or president.
We lost all need for respect for these words!
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:08 AM
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3. He's not a president-- he's truly a fraud
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 12:09 AM by ailsagirl
I cringe when I hear the media call him "Mr. President" or "the President," in hushed and respectful tones. I just want to throw up.

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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:28 AM
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7. I also call him "Mr. Bush"...
mostly out of disrespect. Hehe.

You know, I do think some cheating might have happened in Florida.

However, voter fraud can't make up for three million votes.

Plus, if we had voter fraud, we would have a lot less Democrats in Congress than we do. We also wouldn't have had have Bill Clinton for two terms.

Yes, rebuild those machines. Fix it to where they can handle over a hundred million people voting. Make sure they're no longer made by those who are biased.

But I'm sorry, I think Bush actually did win this time.

He didn't win in 2000 because he didn't get the popular vote (in my eyes that is). However, I really really don't think that voter fraud could have made up for three million votes. If they could have, then you can bet your tail that people doing voter fraud could also manage to get rid of a heck of a lot more Democrats. We could have been left with little to no Democrats this was all about voter fraud.

People want their war time president, period. Just like they wanted Putin and Sharon because they were supposedly "good" in war time. People wanted the president that they knew. They especially wanted him over an anti-war activist. I'm anti-war activist myself, and I admire Kerry standing up to the war years ago. However, I can see Americans believing that he wouldn't be willing to go to war when we needed to. I can see this all coming together and making the majority of Americans want to vote for Bush.

Plus, the poles were repeatively saying ahead of time that people were preferring Bush. Was that fraud too?

I realize you all don't want to blame 58 million Americans for voting him back in, but guess what? They did. Maybe we should start asking them why they did instead of assuming it's all about fraud. We do want to win elections in two years, right? NOW, is the time to find out why people are voting Republican. I want to know, don't you all?



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latteromden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:30 AM
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8. "The poles were saying ahead of time..."
I guess I forgot Poland. =(
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:21 AM
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15. Heh heh heh!
The poles taken from the voter roles? :D

On topic...I can't even spell out *. I've that much outright disgust for he who can't be named. :puke:

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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:03 AM
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18. Oops. Sorry.
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 11:03 AM by Jackie97
Polls. Pardon me, the dummy who can't even spell. LOL.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:34 AM
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9. It's a visceral thing with me-- I just don't think he won
There can't be that many morons in this country.
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:56 AM
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14. Well....
Consider that Putin got voted in Russia. Why on earth did the majority of Russians vote for a man they knew was a former member of the secret police? They felt secure with him against the Chechens. That's why.

Why does Israel keep voting for Sharon? They feel secure with him against the Palestinians.

Why did the people of Afghanistan vote for Karzai? Their country isn't stable and they want the man they know.

Whenever a country is at war or unstable, people vote for the person they know as a leader already. They don't want to switch.

So yeah, I do believe that there are 58 million "morons" in this country. There were during the Reagan years right, and I think Reagan was worse than Bush.

But to give them their due, I really do think that there are a lot of Bush supporters that are no more stupid than the average human being in general. In other words, I don't think they're stupid. I've discovered that some of them know a lot more than I might have thought, were more educated than I thought, etc.

But to be honest, I think the average person has a certain amount of stupidity in them, period. On my job, I've just discovered that so many people really are dumb. They don't have common sense, even if they do have a lot of book smarts. I've discovered that both Republicans and Democrats can be this way. I'm not joking. I'm serious. I really do think the average human being is stupid to a point.

So, I still stand by what I say when I say that we need to talk to Republican supporters more about why they're voting the way they are. It all makes perfect sense to me.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 04:42 PM
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40. You make excellent points
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 04:44 PM by ailsagirl
But I have found it difficult, if not downright impossible, to pinpoint why people back Bush. If ever I ask, they're stumped for an answer and start getting defensive. And I think it keeps coming back to PIPA's study, which cites "cognitive dissonance."

http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/html/new_10_21_04.html



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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:21 PM
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47. Darn.
I didn't realize that some Bush supporters were that naive about what the world was thinking. Where have they been?

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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:34 AM
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10. Bush not only didn't get the popular vote,
he didn't get the electoral vote. Florida was counted after Bush was installed and he lost Florida to Gore.
BUSH LOST all the way around.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:49 AM
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25. Dream on...and we will never have a real election again.
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:46 PM
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35. You're dreaming if you think there will ever be
a "real" election in this land again. It's OVER.
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:22 PM
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48. So Bush is the emperor now?
We have no democracy at all?

Bush can now rule us with an iron fist? I'm not going to give Bush that type of power by thinking that way.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:13 PM
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28. Election fraud CAN make up for 3 million votes.
Central tabulators. It wouldn't take that much effort.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:09 AM
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4. I started doing this too from hearing him do this on the news.
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:16 AM
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5. How clever!
I missed this as I usually watch Dan Rather on CBS, but I have respect for his clever wording...
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Acryliccalico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:22 AM
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6. He sounds like he is trying as hard as he can to be honest
:kick:
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Lenape85 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:35 AM
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11. I'm surprised, considering this is ABC, which owns WABC-AM in NYC
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 12:35 AM by Lenape85
which is Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham's flagship station
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:22 PM
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30. Me too
If memory serves me correctly, wasn't ABC the worst one for going after Clinton during the Monica nonsense?
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:37 AM
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12. I've always called him mr * too
and have noticed Jennings doing it...have noticed it with others too, but don't recall who right now...I've noticed Jennings disdain can't be hidden all the time too.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:26 AM
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16. Nice. Very nice. Deliciously nice. You know what?
I think that's nice. :7
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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:04 AM
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17. That's great! Let me know when he gets off his knees. n/t
*
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:42 AM
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24. Dude, calm down! Couldn't resist... nt
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:21 AM
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19. I would call him "Former Govenor Bush"
But I figure he stole that too.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:22 AM
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20. They started that with Clinton
I noticed it in the mid 90's.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:41 AM
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23. And many dropped
the Mister Clinton. Just said Clinton. It was meaner I guess.

Soon it will be a simple 'Bush'.

180
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:25 AM
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21. I noticed that too. Peter sincerly tries NOT to be a mediawhore.
:kick:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:28 AM
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22. Guardian UK and the BBC call him "Mr." as well
Several Cdn papers don't even use the "Mr.".
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ThorsHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:55 PM
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27. Isn't he Canadian, so Bush isn't his President anyway - still funny though
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:36 PM
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32. If I recall correctly, he got US citizenship in the last couple of years.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:14 PM
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29. I just call him Bush
It just sounds so...vulgar I guess.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:33 PM
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31. Really? I hadn't noticed.
Because I don't watch any of the corporate media news whores anymore. Their un-tacit approval of Bush's arrogant shitpile of an administration really got to me.

If I want to look at cheerleaders, I'll go download some porn. I don't need that shit from my supposed fourth estate.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:39 PM
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33. I noticed during the campaign.
When Junior grossly misquoted John Kerry, completely twisting something he said to suit Junior's own purposes.

Peter Jennings introduced a clip of the (p)resident's remarks by referring to a speech by "Mr. Bush." He then introduced a clip of Kerry's speech by saying, "And here is what Mr. Kerry actually said."

I remember that moment because it was unusual for the media to correct such slams on Kerry.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:46 PM
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34. Yes, life is much better without TV news and really
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 01:51 PM by neebob
without TV. I've had it mostly off since November, and every time I turn it on it seems more bizarre and creepy and fucked up than the last time.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:56 PM
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36. I hadn't noticed Jennings doing that...
but good for him. Makes up a little bit for the nitwit son
never calling John Kerry by name. Hopefully, it hasn't
escaped shrub's attention, and he realizes he's being dissed.

On second thought...that's probably too much to hope for.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:59 PM
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37. if that's Jennings's idea of a protest
it's a pretty lame one.

But of course it isn't. Jennings's supposed "liberal bias" exists only in the minds of the RW smear machine.
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:03 PM
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38. remember on election night?,,,,
bush wanted to said something on life broadcasting,?? peter was piss off he said something like...." oh.... this never happen before....is very unusual for a candidate to do this...uh...we will have mr. * we don't know what is the purpose of this message....blah blah blah...on election night ....never happen before....blah...blah
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:18 PM
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39. Keith Olbermann does it too.
Me thinks it's not accidental. :yourock:
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 05:11 PM
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41. In journalism, it's customary to use a person's formal title
in the first mention. After that, it's Mr. Bush, or just Bush."

I'll have to note whether Jennings is following this S.O.P. or whether he's abandoned it.
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thecorster Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 05:13 PM
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42. I was hoping...
I was hoping Kerry would get a chance to call him "mr bush" in the debates... but then Karl and Co. changed all the rules and forbode the candidates from speaking to one another. Wow! Now that's a debate!
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 07:14 PM
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46. I wouldn't give him any credit
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 07:52 PM by Piperay
one time either Brokow, Rather or Jennings explained and said it was a sign of respect and an acceptable term for whoever is President. The anchors used the Mister with all the other Presidents too, so in their case it is not a form of protest.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:23 PM
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49. I call him by a different name...
I just refer to him as "Evil Incarnate".
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:30 PM
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50. I call him many names... n/t
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