If CBS memo was forged OR if Bush won the military vote, the media would

[blm]

be shouting it at the top of their lungs.

The media's behavior on this CBS memo is SO contrived. They steer clear of the fact that if the memo was actually forged there is NO way that experts tapped by an Attorney General's investigation wouldn't know it definitively. The claim that they can't verify it SCREAMS that the memo was real.

And does anyone seriously believe that the media and the GOP wouldn't be cramming it down our throats if they received the majority of the military vote?

No way. They would be hammering us daily with their "support from the military" and Bush would be the first to crow about it.

[Goldeneye]

1. There's nothing like hearing CNN

talking non-stop about what a terrible network CBS is. I'm sure CNN is totally unbiased.:crazy:

As far as the military vote, the only results I've seen have been overseas ballots for a few nj counties. Kerry won each of the ones I saw. The only explanation I've heard that seems plausible is that the military votes were returned earlier this year, and were counted with the absentee ballots. This would explain why we haven't heard about them, but is there any reason to believe this is true? anyone?

[blm]

2. Bush's m.o. is to hide behind the perceived support from the military.

It's standard ops with the entire GOP. Think they'd be quiet about it this go-round if they really had it?

[Blue Wally]

4. Military ballots come in like any other absentee ballot

and are counted the same way. They come in a postage free envelope, but are not otherwise specially marked.

[EVDebs]

3. Rove slipped the forged memos. Just like he slipped Hatfield

who he knew had a criminal record the 'scoop' on W's community service. Then he just waits for the book to come out so they can have a book-burning party. Easy.

See Amy Goodman's Democracy Now interview with Hatfield.

"AMY GOODMAN: But he said, and something that was controversial was he said that Karl Rove had leaked to him the issue of the cocaine use. I want to go to a clip of the film. It's when JH Hatfield was being questioned by reporters at a book fair. Karl Rove was the man who JH Hatfield said he spoke to, which is hard to believe why would Karl Rove out Bush in this way?"
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/18/1643204

Rove is the master of protecting W.

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[me b zola]

7. Link, please

I don't buy it.

[ZombieNixon]

10. And why should we believe the Wall Street Journal and the NY Post?

Totally unbiased, of course. :eyes:

[blm]

12. No. Bush did NOT win the military vote.

If he did they would be using it as a talking point on a daily basis.

And, I'd like to see what information you base your assertion, because I haven't seen ANYthing but assuption from those who have made that claim.

[TahitiNut]

15. R.I.P.

Back home with the maggots ...

[SouthernDem2004]

6. It was conducted by a retired Attorney General.

It was never an actual government investigation. I am sorry, I may not like Bush but these memos were junk.

[me b zola]

8. But where did the memos come from??

That is what I want investigated. What are their orgins. I have a good idea...but I want proof that it was KKKarl.

[SouthernDem2004]

9. They came from the moron that is a Democrat. I forget his name...

[robcon]

11. Bill Burkett was the souce.

He seems stupid enough - he's changed his stories on several occasions over the past two years. Whether Burkett created them or had them created doesn't matter much.

[blm]

13. If they WERE junk, then it would be EASY for a former attorney general

and a former head of this nation's TOP newsgroup to see they were forged.

You think this panel didn't have top experts examine the memo?

ANY expert would know for certain if it was forged, after all, those claiming they were clear forgeries did so based on the type, right? Why isn't that being claimed by the panel?

[KoKo]

14. Agree, blm...where is the votecount of the "Military Votes" with the

Chimp slavering all over them and the Repugs dancing in the streets...

I haven't seen anything..

And, I agree about CBS.. Their answer was to attack the "Internets." (I believe bad stuff was behind the WSJ article trashing Kos and MYDD...even though I read that it was all a mistake by some reporters who ran with an "off the record" conversation.

[UTUSN]

16. Piggybacking onto This Thread

Who are they? Roger J. STONE and his Cuban wife Nikki. He has been involved in Repuke dirty tricks since age 19 for NIXON. When DOLE ran for prez, STONE was a chief adviser and advised that "family values" be a key campaign issue. During the campaign the National Enquirer found out that Mr and Mrs STONE were "swingers" who advertised for other couples, and who posted their nekkid pics of themselves in magazines. More recently, Roger was the leader of the Repuke mob that stormed the Miami elections office in 2000.

The CBS documents were called-in to the BURKETT informer-dude by somebody named "Lucy RAMIREZ". Uh, could it be Nikki the Cuban? She was supposed to deliver them to BURKETT at the stock show in Houston. When BURKETT got there, a man in a suit is who delivered the documents. This was in May, 2004. BURKETT sat on the documents for months.

When CBS made contact with BURKETT and then aired the story in September, FOUR HOURS LATER a Repuke lawyer, Harry MacDOUGALD was on the internet claiming the documents were forgeries. Uh, how would he know, not having SEEN or handled the documents personally?

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http://www.voiceoffreedom.com/electionstuff/electionlaw ...

According to Judge Hooper’s 36-page order, Roger Stone, through his Washington, D.C.-based firm, "Ikon Public Affairs", was the real agent behind the campaign in late 2000 and 2001 to defeat the Florida Justices in the 2002 merit retention election. But who, if anyone, was paying Roger Stone and giving him orders remains unclear.

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0405/barrett.php

'Roger Stone, the longtime Republican dirty-tricks operative who led the mob that shut down the Miami-Dade County recount and helped make George W. Bush president in 2000, is financing, staffing, and orchestrating the presidential campaign of Reverend Al Sharpton.'

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/2004/la-091704buck...

Blogger Who Faulted CBS Documents Is Conservative Activist

WASHINGTON — It was the first public allegation that CBS News used forged memos in its report questioning President Bush's National Guard service — a highly technical explanation posted within hours of airtime citing proportional spacing and font styles.

But it did not come from an expert in typography or typewriter history as some first thought. Instead, it was the work of Harry W. MacDougald, an Atlanta lawyer with strong ties to conservative Republican causes who helped draft the petition urging the Arkansas Supreme Court to disbar President Clinton after the Monica Lewinsky scandal, the Times has found.

The identity of "Buckhead," a blogger known previously only by his screen name on the site freerepublic.com ....

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