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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:15 PM
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Gary Bauer: Muslim world is ungrateful, we UNDERESTIMATE their hate for us
"Christian activist Gary Bauer of Campaign for Working Families is outraged by the Indonesian government's demands and restrictions on foreign and particularly American relief workers. "There's an old saying in Washington that, in this city, no good deed goes unpunished," he notes, "but I think that phrase would more accurately be applied to the Islamic world."

....In other words, he says what apparently concerned the mainstream media most was the fact that a Christian ministry headed by a graduate of "Reverend Jerry Falwell's Liberty University" had "airlifted 300 tsunami orphans from disease-infested Banda Aceh to Jakarta, where a Christian children's home was prepared to receive and raise them."

But the concerns of the mainstream media papers are misplaced, Bauer asserts. "If they are worried about the orphans of Indonesia," he says, "perhaps they could do a little investigative journalism on how Islamofascist groups operating in the region are already trying to herd as many children as possible into Muslim schools funded by the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia."

In fact, Bauer adds, the media would do well turn from efforts to demonize Christian ministries, and instead start informing the American public about the implications of Islamic extremism and indoctrination efforts. The Campaign for Working Families chairman says Americans often underestimate "the absolute hatred and paranoia there is within the Islamic world toward the United States and free countries generally."


http://www.theconservativevoice.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2050
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:16 PM
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1. a bit
hateful and paranoid yourself, mr. bauer
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:17 PM
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2. "Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia"
Oh yes, Gary, let's do open that little can of worms.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:17 PM
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3. I honor all religions I just don't believe in forcing them on people.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:19 PM
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6. ditto
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Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/

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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:17 PM
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4. I would LOVE to meet that little sawed-off prick in a dark alley.
One of us would leave feet first.
:grr:
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:27 PM
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12. I think Gary Bauer meets James Dobson in dark alleys
;)
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:29 PM
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13. I dunno, they both look like out 'n out bottoms
:evilgrin:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:43 PM
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21. Now ... let's get that rumor started!
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 10:43 PM by Maat
(just kidding)
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:04 PM
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23. I know for a fact that Wes clark told him off in an alley
somewhere.

Well, it was described to me as an "animated discussion."

Wish I knew what was said.

:evilgrin:

(Honestly, this is all I know.)
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:17 PM
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5. Bauer for GOP Nominee '08 n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:19 PM
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7. He's right, at least regarding hating the United States
It has nothing to do with freedom however
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:19 PM
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8. Dear Gary
You have told the world how you saw your ex Marine father sit at the kitchen table crying in frustration. I think he was crying for you.

You darn fool.

180
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:22 PM
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9. So it's TRUE...It's REALLY TRUE!!!
The fundie Xtians REALLY DO steal babies!
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:23 PM
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10. They didn't say thank you? Our aid comes with strings attached? No, Gary
I believe helping out in this disaster has to be as free and clear of anyone's agenda as possible. Including yours.
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Stepup2 Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:26 PM
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11. This guy and others like
him, in my mind, are "human" equivalent of playing a vinyl recording backwards...

Only in this/his/their case there really is some thing evil embedded in the message. :mad:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:50 PM
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14. Gary Bauer - PNAC signatory. n/t
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:50 PM
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15. The Islamists want people like Bauer out
and I can't say I blame them one single bit. Interesting that I haven't heard any complaints about Catholic Relief Services. It's the Protestant fundies that have caused problems in Indonesia as well as other parts of the world.
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:01 PM
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16. Why do the right-wing Christians think they know better than the rest?
"Christian ministry headed by a graduate of "Reverend Jerry Falwell's Liberty University" had "airlifted 300 tsunami orphans from disease-infested Banda Aceh to Jakarta, where a Christian children's home was prepared to receive and raise them."

Oh, those bad, bad islamofascists, so different from the christofascists, right?

I would call what they tried a mass kidnapping. Nobody apparently asked them to whisk these 300 little folks away and raise them. They just took "liberties" and decided they knew, once again, what is right.

Sadly, many of these right wingnut freaks used to lead marches in and around women's clinics. They were pro-birth before they were mainsteamed into the party as spokespeople. Back in those days, of course, they were considered "radical." Now, nope, just our normal mainstream Rethuglican.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:01 PM
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17. They're FIGHTING over who gets to indoctrinate the children?
Does anyone see the madness in that?

JUST FEED AND CLOTHE THEM!!! GIVE THEM SHELTER AND MEDICAL ATTENTION!!!

Damn. Always gotta be strings attached. Nothing's unconditional with fundies, is it?
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:04 PM
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18. Oh, the world hates us all right.
But not for the reasons I'm sure he thinks they do.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:12 PM
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19. So GB, why do you think they HATE US as much as you say?
(Isn't that something? Garry Bauer has the same initials as DimSon?)

Could it be they hate us for invading ME countries? Supporting dictators when it suits us? Naaah. They must hate us for our freedoms, yeah, that's it.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:08 PM
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24. Very auspicious
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:19 PM
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20. If they don't like wot we're doin' fer'em
why don't they go back where they came from. :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:58 PM
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22. Jesus H Christ! When Will These Islamic Fundamentalists Learn!?
All we're trying to do is kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity!

Why do they hate us so much?

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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:07 AM
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25. No Gary, you underestimate our hatred of your way of life.
This man is pure evil.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:09 AM
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26. These people have big projectors
and are not afraid to use them.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:09 AM
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27. Its not like the Christians are providing relief because they want to help
They are doing it so they can force conversions on these people. Sometimes, that is the only way these groups will help out at all.
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