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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:27 PM
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Right-Wing Debate Dictionary
I'm sure many of you are already familiar with Atrios's wingnut debate dictionary. An attempted discussion with a right-winger at a party the other night reminded me of just how accurate it is:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=104

Some favorites:

"anorecdotalism: when presented with statistics, they respond with a story about meeting an anonymous little old lady @ bus stop or grocery store & whatever she told them is more credible than ANY kind of facts or figures we can provide"

"deus ex rectum: when arguing an increasingly unsupportable position, one suddenly and out of nowhere pulls a totally non-sequitur BS long-discredited right-wing meme out of one's ass."

"Plain-Folk Argument - Accusing your opponent of being an ivory-tower dwelling elitist because they don't watch Nascar or listen to country music, or because they do enjoy lattes, wine, and classical music. Arguments about personal taste and their unimportance in political debate are not a valid comeback."

"Vaccingating: The process of accusing your opponent of doing what you're already doing in an effort to prevent your opponent from being the first to make that accusation."
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mrstick Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:36 PM
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1. A new Plain Folk Argument
Plain-Folk Argument - Accusing your opponent of being an ivory-tower dwelling elitist because they don't have a list of social groups or actitvies that are a sin against nature


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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:10 PM
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2. Useful to us, if strip off humor so short descrip of what RW does in
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 09:12 PM by oscar111
arguments.

To know beforehand what to expect in the way of RW irrationaliy,
could be very good.

Someone have time to rework atrios' dictionary so it is a useful thing, and post it here?

The existing definitions have a kernel of useful info, but they are too long and wrapped in humor.
The names are especially too long and obscure.

The def about a little old lady vs stats is especially useful. RW'ers use anecdotalism all the time.

Also useful to spot, is RWers changing the topic suddenly.

IF we know to expect such things , we will not get shook when debating RWers.

Dictionary reworking, anyone?

IF you rework it, pls send me a DU personal message.. the icon after my name, think it is a franked stamp with horizontal lines. Two icons look similar. BTW, abolish icons someday.
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