Why would "*" and co want to start a world war

[Ironpost]

that could have such "dire" consequences? What would be their rationale? Can they not understand that this will most likely be the end of things as they were when they hit the tarmac like peace, prosperity, family's, homes, etc? Is this good? Me thinks not.

[Walt Starr]

1. The Rapture is their goal

They are religiously insane.

[Lerkfish]

8. mainly insane.

I really don't think THEY ascribe to religion as much as they PANDER to those who ascribe to religion

[Dogmudgeon]

2. To fulfill Biblical prophecy

Of course, this so-called prophecy is heavily filtered through the "Fundamentalist" worldview. This explains, in part, why the Fundies are so obsessed with sex, abortion (never mentioned in the Bible), drug use (also never mentioned in the Bible), Communism (ditto) and the non-existent mass persecution of Christians.

It's not my desire to bash on Christianity, but a diseased version of it is looking to spill blood with a diseased version of Islam. Blood lust wins out over reconciliation every time.

--p!

[wtbymark]

3. it is the 'global economy'

to control the global economy- the global corperations have to control the world's recources, including labor and landing costs. We are in the beginnings of a war ON the world for these reasons. The rapture thing is a (an idiotic) way to dupe the masses into what they are doing, they aren't that stupid.

[havocmom]

13. BINGO There are no nations anymore, only Corporate power

and corporations make lotsa $$ selling to all sides in potential conflicts. They also make lotsa $$ when people have to rebuild infrastructure torn asunder by warfare. They don't make a whole lotta $$ on actual services to people. There just isn't enough profit in actually providing what people need.

RW radio spent decades selling a chunk of the US voters on the idea the 'government should be run like a business'. Well, the CEOs are in charge and business is good, FOR BUSINESSES. For people, not so good.

Government should be the tool by which communal needs are addressed and communal problems are solved. Government won't do that by molding itself after 'for profit' entities.

I would add that a lot of the corporations who are trying to run government to their advantage do so because they cannot survive on their own in a really 'free market' they are so fond of advocating when they want regulation of their actions removed. There seems to be a tendency for corporations to insist THEY not be regulated, but the people have to be over regulated by having their rights diminished. That isn't a free market.

[HereSince1628]

19. I have to say I think there _is_ something in this.

we have emerged into a period when the meaning of nations has changed.
City-states (think Venice for example) once dominated with economies and power, nations then emerged regulating their own economies and power, now nations seem to be losing their power to trade groups/organizations.

Where once enlightened statesmen spoke of liberty and democracy for living breathing people and enacted legislation expanding liberty, and justice, now officials read into the Congressional Record the scripts of corporate lobbies and pursue deregulated free-enterprise and the welfare of corporations.

Where once every human could hope for a birth right of equality and full citizenship for their descendants, now we have created an ownership society where membership is contingent on investment.

[The Backlash Cometh]

4. He's leading by the polls. There is only one category where he

has consistently come up strong in the polls and that is terrorism. Well, actually, it was usually labeled "Iraq and Terrorism," but now that the truth is out on Iraq, it's just "Terrorism." So, if Bush wants to continue his 3% "mandate," he has to play to his strengths. That means that Bush NEEDS to create chaos. He has to. It's the only way to keep the press at arm's length. So, expect him to start a war somewhere else and his incredibly stupid Republican following will believe it because nobody is shaming them into understanding that they are as devoid of ethics and morality as Bush is.

[driver8]

21. "Creating Chaos"...

I have never thought about that but you are exactly right! Shrub and Co. have to create chaos as that is all they have to work with. If things are going too smoothly, people start thinking for themselves and seeing how screwed up things are and Shrub is screwed.

[The Backlash Cometh]

22. Actually, if things go too smoothly, their devious minds are even more

dangerous. Look what they did to Clinton and this country in the 90s during a time of peace!

[Demit]

5. Because there's a lot of money to be made by those who manufacture

the war materiel, and those are his buddies--dad and the Carlyle Group. Cut down on the population, in the US and elsewhere--the pesky underclass who soak up all those social services. Get contracts for the rebuilding of the countries ravaged by war--again, his buds. And gain control of the spoils of war--the oil. Other than that, gee, I don't know. :)

[carnie_sf]

14. That's exactly right

I always refer back to Smedley Butler's brilliant essay "War is a Racket" when questioning why our gov't would go to war anywhere.

[ooglymoogly]

23. and then there is g. e. making parts and equipment for the war machine

and incidentally owning cnn and the time warner pols and vast other holdings in media, how convenient. gee lets make war, lets make money lets propagandize the people and let our pols show they love us, how smart....so much power

[DemBones DemBones]

6. Profit. And, for some, prophecy. nt

[Chef]

7. Bush Wars

I really don't think that the folks that run things believe in any religion, if you could get them to admit it. The real reason is that wars are a cover for doing the mischief with the economy that they do. If we are at war, constant war, it sort of negates the democratic process. Being against the "war president" in time of war is not cool, therefore they can do all sorts of crap without opposition. The rule is: A confused voter in a world full of conflict makes for license to do whatever you want. Bush would have been run out of town in disgrace if he didn't have the war, so now he has to keep it up to stay in grace with the poor bastards who live in this country.

[Minstrel Boy]

9. Fascism is irrational at its core.

There's no understanding it. There's only fighting it.

[jokerman93]

10. or maybe they know something

Global warming, coming epidemics, new fuel sources. Who knows if the slaughter of millions isn't part of their re-visioning of the world order? As far as I can see, they consider the wealthy white elite to be the locus of real humanity and the carriers of history and civilization. Doesn't matter if they cull the non-white peasantry to make the 21st century work for the ones who count.

[punpirate]

11. As Iraq clearly shows...

... these people never consider unintended consequences. They've insulated themselves and Bush from outside criticism and warnings. In their minds, they're simply spreading truth, democracy and the American Way.

That sort of delusion encourages others aligned with the neo-cons to take advantage of it--hence, the corruption in contracting, the religious beliefs in Armageddon, the maneuvering for control of oil.

The neo-cons, however, believe in the exercise of raw, naked US power in the world, and that's their aim. The rest are camp followers, looking to cash in on America cutting a swath across the world.

But, these people believe, absolutely, that they've repealed Murphy's Law and all its corollaries. That's why they'd be stupid enough to do the unthinkable.

[sweetheart]

12. Because they won't pay the price

Like all imperial wars, those who are busy starting them won't fight
them or die in them. That they are war criminals should be hint enough
to what they'll do with the helm of the head of state. Like hitler
and so many others, these nazis will not be satisfied until they kill
millions or are killed themselves.

[spanone]

15. Because he can. He's the boy King and by god you best listen to him.

By the way, he answers to no one.

[shadowknows69]

16. because they can choose who survives it

and I'm upset I haven't got my invitation to the bunker yet :hippie:

[ComerPerro]

17. Because they won't be in danger, and they can make tons of money

[spunky]

18. Because Americans always re-elect presidents in the middle of a war.

What better way to ensure he's not a one-termer like daddy? And maybe they're hoping that if the war continues to 2008, we'll elect someone out of his administration.

God knows you don't want to change horses in the middle of the apocalypse.

[Ironpost]

20. Heavens no

Welcome to DU

[radwriter0555]

24. For power and profit.... The same reasons hitler started his world war..

and why all men have started their world wars.

For power and profits.

[rman]

25. dire consequences for whom?

it's not good for us little people, but it is good for them power elites, who care about nothing except themselves.

[Ironpost]

26. They will also have to live on this planet

and hell if we the working class all disapear that means they will have to work themselves. grow their own food, clean their own homes, etc and heaven forbid they get their hands dirty. Bloody no problem

[rman]

27. the less workers, the easier they're kept under control

as far as they're concerned, not all of us need to disappear - just most of us.

[DireStrike]

29. Bush's house in texas is an enviro-freak's wet dream

Solar powered, energy efficient to the core.

[DireStrike]

28. PURE PROFIT - Grandpoppy got RICH off the last world war.

Selling stuff to the nazis.