Outcome of Iran War?

[yurbud]

[underpants]

1. Other-the Robot Army will turn on us and enslave us in cocoons

We have to prepare a time traveling cyborg to travel back in time to prevent a seemingly unrelated event that set the ball rolling on this from happening.

I saw a documentary (or something like that)about it on TV.

[whistle]

5. Was it Seymour Hersch who claims to have gotten ahold....

...of a White House memo/letter that lays out this administrations plans to invade Iran in June 2005?

[justinsb]

2. I posted this

in it's own thread, but it dropped off the radar fairly quickly...

Earthling's United

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EarthU /
www.earthlingsunited.info

is launching a new focus group in advance of a potential war to start
gathering information etc, so if war in Iran suddenly appears on the
'official' agenda we're not playing catch up and at the very least can
start funneling contact lists and information to local organizers. If you are interested in contributing to this effort please visit

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EarthUPeaceIran/

[yurbud]

4. I'll look for some stuff later today.

[izzybeans]

3. How about

the EU allies itself against the Axis powers (britain and the U.S. with their satallite states comprising the coalition of the timidly willing) currently colonizing the mideast? WWIII anybody?

Then when the dust settles the ethnic groups of both Iran and Iraq battle over control of the newly formed ethnocracies, eventually escalating their repression into a full-scale genocide of minority populations unable to procure represenation via the ballot box. All while The left in the U.S. comes back out from the shadows, after the downfall of the Bushbot Regime to reclaim what was stolen from them in the first place. With the collapse of corporate multinationals too racked up in debt to hide their leaders from the International Criminal Court the non-profit sector continues to surge and transforms economic development strategies to include sustainable community and environmental policies.

That's the doomsday scenario I have floating around in the back of my mind; but it finds a little hope in what I fear is already an opening in Pandora's Box.

[yurbud]

7. Where are China and Russia in your scenario?

[izzybeans]

10. Hard to say for me?

I wouldn't count on them doing much. I hear china's too divided on this issue-per a friend of mine who lived there-I'm not sure per se. Russia's infrastructure is still crumbling, I doubt they have the production capacity to get involved for any sustained period of time-unless they align themselves with the EU, which would once again be a tenous one. China, if they get involved, they would need to be directly threatened.

Where do you see them? I could use some enlightening on this subject. I know the history is deep in the region with Russia-assuming Putin's geopolitical aims carry over from his role in the former soviet union. But China? I just don't know how they fit for lack of knowledge.

My scenario was a just a rough one dreamed up in about 5 minutes. I didn't give much thought to it other than to spit it out quickly before the thoughts were lost.

[yurbud]

12. we're lining Russia's southern flank with bases

in former Soviet republics, rubbing salt into the wound of their declining empire.

To whatever degree we don't control the oil in the region, they benefit by being a bigger relative player.

[izzybeans]

17. They seem to be grumbling

in contempt about this. By "they" I mean Putin.

[justinsb]

6. I know that CNN

is trying to debunk the New Yorker article, but I think after the Dan Rather thing that the New Yorker wouldn't run this if they didn't have pretty solid info.

[yinkaafrica]

8. Are they nuke-tipping that Sunburn missile?

That would be a mighty fine hello.

[txaslftist]

9. They will greet us with open arms...

And welcome democracy into their benighted land. And bunnies! There will be bunnies! And lots of fluffy bunnies!

Yaaay!

[welshTerrier2]

11. The Iran-Iraq War

remember "the good old days" when Iran and Iraq were fighting each other and not both fighting the U.S. ??? soon, the Iran-Iraq war will refer to the U.S. invasion of the entire Middle East ...

[katinmn]

13. From what I have been reading, Iran has been expecting us.

They are much more organized in their hatred of the US.
They will probably nuke us.

[yurbud]

15. that would be stupid

If they did that, we would be back a roughly morally equal footing, so we would respond massively and wipe them of the map.

It's a pretty basic principle of foreign policy that countries don't do things that will lead to their immediate destruction.

[VOX]

Nuking Israel is another grim scenario...

Now that * has opened up a massive hornet's nest in the ME, and is stirring it up with a stick, there any number of seriously bad events that could result. Or a combination of bad events.

And the majority of Americans allegedly **trust** The Chimp in global matters?

God help us all.

[VOX]

14. Apologies for the blasted double post.

[ComerPerro]

16. Iraq II : The sequel

This time, though, there will be a host of new characters who didn't want the war and now find themselves forced into service.

And the level of publicity it gets, with the fear and terror and supression of dissent, just might last long enough to get the Republicans a further majority in Congress. Enough to make Bush president for as many terms as he wants.