Will Kerry vote to give the chimp the money?

[sfecap]

Why wouldn't he?

He voted to enable the chimp in the first place...

[quinnox]

1. Yes, I think the Senate will pass

the bill, Kerry believes we need to stay in Iraq and reconstruct it.

[Andy_Stephenson]

4. He better not cave on this

or he will be DONE!

[liberalhistorian]

7. Then let him pay for it with his own goddamn money and

that of his equally well-off blueblood pals, instead of, once again, expecting Joe and Jane Q Public (that's you and me) to pick up the tab, and expecting US to all of this noble "sacrificing" he and Shrub and the others love to blather on and on about. God knows he's got enough money, and so does most of the rest of the fucking senate and congress that wouldn't know what the average American's life was like if God put them in hell and made them actually live it.

[ikojo]

2. What about Gephardt?

He also voted to give shrubby authority to attack another sovereign nation? Of course Gephardt can always do what he did on July 10 when the House of "Representatives" was voting on the rules changes to the overtime laws....

GEPHARDT MISSED THAT VOTE....he fails to vote on many issues where he could be taking a stand.

:mad: :puke:

[Gin]

3. Yes..he will....if he doesnt the re-thugs will blame him for any failure

in Iraq from now on...his first vote yes to ivade dug a hole he can't get out of...he won't get my vote.

[onehandle]

5. Why Kerry in particular?

Did the other candidates drop out?

How would they vote?

[quinnox]

10. All the major candidates would vote for it

They seem to be in agreement on this issue, at least.

Kucinich would vote against, but he is not a top tier candidate.

[blm]

12. sfecap works for the Dean campaign.

HJDHJ.

[sfecap]

13. Wrong. I don't work for the Dean campaign.

Sorry. Try again...

[blm]

33. But you've been on the trail with him.

And were with him when he did his BBC interview. How do you get so much access without being part of his campaign?

And if you are sincerely concerned about issues, then why are you trying to reinforce negative perceptions of the opponent Dean fears the most? You know, PUSHPOLLING people here on DU.

[Andy_Stephenson]

16. I don't work for the Dean camp....

and can say confidentaly...Kerry will vote yes on anything Bush puts in front of him. It is a given.

[sangh0]

18. Dean says "I tend to believe the president."

http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/912159.asp?cp1=1

[sfecap]

19. Gee, that's relevant. June 22nd....

And not even in the context of the 87 Billion.

Desperation. Sigh.

[sangh0]

25. As relevant as "How many houses does Kerry own"

and "How much stock does his wife have"

Dean:"I also understand human beings. I believe that Americans are conservative with a small C. They don't want too much change too fast."

[Andy_Stephenson]

28. I wonder why you keep mentioning Dean

when replying to me...My man is Dennis K. a real man of the people.

[Forkboy]

36. how about

they're both irrelevant?

[Clark Can WIN]

6. I think he'll vote no on it myself

With a caveat that his vote is tied to UN support, or a clear exit strategy or something. He can't afford campaign wise to look like a Bush enabler right now. He seems astute as a politician and this would be a bad vote for his campaign.

[blm]

8. Wouldn't most of them?

They need to get Iraq on its feet quickly and there is no way that can be done now without spending the dollars.

I don't know how he's going to vote for sure, but, I'd be surprised if any of them except Kucinich would be FOR not spending the money necessary. It's consistent for Kucinich in that he wants total pullout NOW. The others are for staying with more troops, or staying with additional UN troops.

btw...We'd still be in Iraq with the Biden-Lugar version of the IRW. If it had passed, would that have made Dean an "enabler" in your view?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

9. If Kerry believes that the post-war handling of Iraq

reaches the level of malfeasance that he says it does.....

It'll be interesting. (I think he will vote Yea)

[JPace]

11. This is what makes Senators

so hard to be elected to the presidency.
They have voting records that are
easily used against them.

I am for Kerry, but will feel offended
if he votes yes on the $87 million.
Unless he can convince me it is right
I will be even closer to switching
over to Dean.

[Andy_Stephenson]

17. Thats 87 Billion with a

B

[JPace]

20. Its hard for me to think in those numbers...

but I am sure you understand what I meant.

[Andy_Stephenson]

21. Yes but freepers might not...

remember Billion :) or :( as the case mey be.

[unfrigginreal]

14. He will and he should!

Of course only after a thorough investigation by Congress on what the money is needed for.

If the money is needed than we have to supply it...because we allowed an idiot to get his war on. We destroyed the country and now it is our responsibility to fix it!

Kerry was an absolute fool for voting for the war...he'd be an even bigger one to now not financially support his decision.

[denverbill]

15. Just Say No.

Redeem yourself John. You helped get us into this war. If we are going to stay, we've got to pay.

Don't authorize the money unless it's paid for using current tax receipts. If that means scrapping the * tax cuts, then do it, dammit!

[madfloridian]

22. Did I see several posts here saying it is right to vote for that money?

Why are you saying that? I would think getting the UN into this, giving up a little of our so-called power there to the UN, would be the right thing.

[sandnsea]

23. Dean already supported it

This morning on MSNBC. He said we can't leave which means we're going to have to spend the money. He didn't even suggest Congress put strings on the money, at least Kennedy did that. I hope Dean doesn't pretend he had a different position on this a month from now.

[madfloridian]

29. He said we needed to turn to other nations.

Be fair, please.

[sandnsea]

31. Fair, yes, let's

That'd be refreshing.

[pocoloco]

24. He will hear the

skulls and bones rattling in the closet and vote yes.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

26. My Senators are Kerry and Kennedy

I just called both their offices-and my rep Mike Capuano's office as well-to express my displeasure at Bush's request.

I also mentioned to Kerry's admin that I was thinking of giving him my vote for President, but that if he votes for the 87 Billion, I will be voting for someone else.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

27. yes kerry already said he would...

[DrGonzoLives]

30. If this is about money to rebuild Iraq

then, yes, probably, and it's a yes vote I wouldn't have a problem with. At this point, we have royally fucked that country over, and if we just sit back and do nothing, we're going to look even worse than we do now (which would be extraordinarily bad).

As long as the money doesn't go to Halliburton for fat government contracts, I don't have a problem with it.

[Andy_Stephenson]

Get ready...it's going to

Haliburton, Kellog , Brown and Root et al.

[Q]

32. Why all the attack threads against Kerry?

- Do you really think we haven't noticed your numerous character assassination threads on the same subject?

[Jacobin]

34. Yeah. and then he'll claim he didn't

Or, was fooled into it, or anyone in his position would have done it, and no he didn't want to but the devil made him do it.

[nomaco-10]

35. You got that right. The more I see Kerry...

The more I like Dean.