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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:00 PM
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Did you see Smirk had no money for the collection plate?
Crashcart and Poppy were shoving twenties at him during the big Prayer service, crashcart took his back and smirk takes Poppy's $20 and puts it into the plate. All with a dumb look on his face of course.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:03 PM
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1. Twenty lousy effin' dollars?
They don't trust him with walking-around money, but we're supposed to trust him with our Social Security? :eyes:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:03 PM
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2. 20 bucks? That's it? BFEE makes billions on the drug trade alone.
WRITTEN STATEMENT OF CELERINO CASTILLO III., (D.E.A. RETIRED)
FOR THE HOUSE PERMANENT SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE


April 27, 1998

For several years, I fought in the trenches of the front lines of Reagan's "Drug War", trying to stamp out what I considered American's greatest foreign threat. But, when I was posted, in Central and South America from 1984 through 1990, I knew we were playing the "Drug War Follies." While our government shouted "Just Say No !", entire Central and South American nations fell into what are now known as, "Cocaine democracies."

While with the DEA, I was able to keep journals of my assignments in Central and South America. These journals include names, case file numbers and DEA NADDIS (DEA Master Computer) information to back up my allegations. I have pictures and original passports of the victims that were murdered by CIA assets. These atrocities were done with the approval of the agencies.

We, ordinary Americans, cannot trust the C.I.A. Inspector General to conduct a full investigation into the CIA or the DEA. Let me tell you why. When President Clinton (June, 1996) ordered The Intelligence Oversight Board to conduct an investigation into allegations that US Agents were involved in atrocities in Guatemala, it failed to investigate several DEA and CIA operations in which U.S. agents knew before hand that individuals (some Americans) were going to be murdered.

I became so frustrated that I forced myself to respond to the I.O.B report citing case file numbers, dates, and names of people who were murdered. In one case (DEA file # TG-86-0005) several Colombians and Mexicans were raped, tortured and murdered by CIA and DEA assets, with the approval of the CIA. Among those victims identified was Jose Ramon Parra-Iniguez, Mexican passport A-GUC-043 and his two daughters Maria Leticia Olivier-Dominguez, Mexican passport A-GM-8381. Also included among the dead were several Colombian nationals: Adolfo Leon Morales-Arcilia "a.k.a." Adolfo Morales-Orestes, Carlos Alberto Ramirez, and Jiro Gilardo-Ocampo. Both a DEA and a CIA agent were present, when these individuals were being interrogated (tortured). The main target of that case was a Guatemalan Congressman, (Carlos Ramiro Garcia de Paz) who took delivery of 2,404 kilos of cocaine in Guatemala just before the interrogation. This case directly implicated the Guatemalan Government in drug trafficking (The Guatemalan Congressman still has his US visa and continues to travel at his pleasure into the US). To add salt to the wound, in 1989 these murders were investigated by the U.S Department of Justice, Office of Professional Responsibility. DEA S/I Tony Recevuto determined that the Guatemalan Military Intelligence, G-2 (the worst human rights violators in the Western Hemisphere) was responsible for these murders. Yet, the U.S. government continued to order U.S. agents to work hand-in-hand with the Guatemalan Military. This information was never turned over to the I.O.B. investigation. (See attached response)

SNIP...

I was there. I was the leading Agent in Guatemala. 99.9% of DEA operations were conducted with the Guatemalan military. In 1990, the DEA invited a Guatemalan military G-2 officer, Cpt. Fuentez, to attend a DEA narcotic school, which is against DEA policy. I know this for a fact because I worked with this officer for several years and was in Guatemala when he was getting ready to travel to the States.

CONTINUED...

http://www.american-buddha.com/cia.writ.state.htm
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:12 PM
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8. Can it be said that the War on Drugs is really a War Against
Competitors?

Does the U.S. tell independent drug operators you're either with us or against us'?
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:04 PM
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3. Very symbollic....he's been living off Poppy's dime from day one...
What has he ever achieved on his own?
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 12:33 PM
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21. That's exactly what I thought when I saw it.
Daddy always there to bail out his worthless ass.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:05 PM
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4. Couldn't he have written a check? Oh, wait...
he only writes on the BACK of checks...
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:07 PM
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5. Why would he carry cash?
You know he never has to pay for anything.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:28 PM
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10. I don't think Presidents ever carry wallets, much less cash.
Probably no keys, either.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:45 PM
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15. Neither does the Queen of England
She doesn't carry any money or pay for anything herself.
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:58 PM
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18. Al Pacino in Donnie Brasco...
"Wise guys never pay."
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:11 PM
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6. 50 some years old and the dumb ass still has to have Daddy carry him
How did this A-hole end up with a job...little alone the most powerful job in the world?
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Calvinist Basset Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:12 PM
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7. It doesn't surprise me.
Despite the extreme support he receives from evangelical, right-wing Christians--GW Bush does not attend worship services. That's right. The emperor has no church.

Bill Clinton, who went to church regularly, got scoffed at by the right wing religious loonies; Bush, who hardly ever goes to church (aside from these special events, he simply does not attend), gets strong endorsement from the Falwell crowd. Doesn't make sense, does it?

Kerry, in my opinion, shows so much more Christian integrity--and I just don't understand how so many sycophantic morons can devote themselves to Bush. Frankly, I think Bush is one of the most evil men in political history.

But I digress from the original topic. Since he doesn't go to church, he has no clue about proper etiquette when the collection plate comes around.

God, I hope we can survive another four years of this boob in office.
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:22 PM
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9. I said the same thing to my husband, when I heard this!
I thought I had heard somewhere that Shrub didn't go to church, whereas even Bill Clinton went most Sundays. I'm not making that up am I? Hubby seemed to think he kept seeing pics that showed Shrub DID go to church, but I'd like to prove him wrong! Also, it seemed that both Cheney and Daddy handed him $$ to bail him out!! Incredible.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:30 PM
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11. There was a recent article in TNR about shrub's
lack of church attendance. The article also pointed out that the media is ignoring this.

I don't have a link, but it was discussed here about a week ago. I Googled it later, and found the article.

Someone here said also that shrub does not have a membership in a congregation. I have not been able to find out if this is true. Maybe someone here knows?
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:38 PM
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13. Yes, I've read that too
He doesn't attend church because it too much of a 'security threat.' Like such things never existed when Clinton was President. Also read while Reagan made a big show when he went to church, he also did not attend often. bush is such a paper man-no substance to him at all. What you see is opposite of what there is...
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:44 PM
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14. I'd like to try to find this article...
and hate to sound ignorant, but what does TNR stand for? Perhaps they will have it catalogued on-line...
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:46 PM
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16. The New Republic.
I am sorry. You are not ignorant.

I was trying to save space.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:53 PM
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17. Here it is.
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 08:09 PM
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20. thank you!
:hi:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:37 PM
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12. It's a good thing Dad slipped him some money
Otherwise he would have just taken a couple of bills out of the plate like he usually does.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 08:02 PM
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19. I'm surprised he didn't take come out,
thinking it was a campaign contribution.
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