Thread for Kerry Supporters Who Don't Hate Dean

[WilliamPitt]

Dean is a stud, a political badass who has put together a from-zero-to-frontrunner campaign that even has the White House second-guessing their "glee" about his possibly getting the nomination (see LBN). His stance against the war, along with Kucinich's, is the gold standard for how candidates should have acted in the run-up to the war.

I support Kerry, but I love Howard Dean. Anyone with me?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

1. I think they both have some great attributes

That must make me hypocritical since they don't agree on everything :eyes:

[blm]

2. I support Kerry, and will support Dean IF he is the nominee.

.

[JitterbugPerfume]

4. I support Dean

and I adore Kerry

We Democrats are blessed with top notch candidated

[wryter2000]

3. I'm for either of them

If either of them get the nomination, they have my wholehearted support.

:yourock:

[disgruntella]

5. checking in

Dean's campaign is bringing the truth about the Iraq war to a lot of people, and it is harnessing a lot of anti-Bush energy. I love Dean for that.

I haven't actually donated to either candidate, and truthfully it's more of a gut instinct that puts Kerry ahead of Dean in my mind. (But I'd be dishonest if I didn't say I was more for Kerry than Dean, so there you go.)

And then there's Clark... who I am getting a little impatient with, but I don't think it's too late for him either.

[Old and In the Way]

6. Absolutely, tootly!

Hey, maybe we should offer the American people a Democatic Co-President option?

Because we're going to need 2 Real Presidents to fix the fricken' mess Dimson and VP their 'n chief have wrecked on this country in the past 3 years.

[Monte Carlo]

7. Absolutely; I love what Dean has brought to the process.

His campaign style has forced all the other candidates to adapt to his populist ways. Losers like Lieberman are being marginalized, while the competitive ones have to adopt at least part of his campaign's spirit into theirs.

I have nothing against Dean - I just believe that Kerry has a better shot at beating Bush; he has a solid record and message, IMHO, and I think he will be better equipped to handle the GOP-media onslaught that WILL be coming for the man who gets the nod.

I would love to be proved wrong, and I think Dean has a shot as well (I would have not said that 6 months ago). I will gladly vote for him if he gets the nod.

Just not Lieberman... he would be a slow death for the Democrats.

[unfrigginreal]

8. Way to go Will...

class act as usual!

[mindfulNJ]

9. I'm with you

Kerry# 1, Dean #2, Clark #3...but I'd vote for a sock puppet over Shrubby McNasty:eyes:

[caledesi]

15. I love that pic! I am a Dean supporter...but

I do like Kerry and if he is the nominee, he has my vote. He's smart, articulate, good debating etc. (I was mad at him for supporting the war, but hey if he ends up being the "guy", ok w/ me).

I will probably get flamed for this, but I don't think Kerry looks healthy. JMHO.

[blm]

18. He biked over a 100 miles last month for a charity run.

And he came in 37th I think.

[mindfulNJ]

26. thanks caledesi

don't you just love photoshop? :)

[LeftCoast]

10. How 'bout a Deanie who likes Kerry?

I was pretty impressed with Kerry at the debate. I thought he had a lot of Kennedyesque qualities.

I have to say, despite all the in-party bickering, we've got a load of excellent Presidential candidates!

[vi5]

11. This Dean supporter hasn't seen much vitriol from Kerry folks...

Honestly maybe I've got my head in the sand but the worst I've seen from Kerry folks has been a "he can't get elected" or "he's too liberal". I've not seen one post by a Kerry supporter who says he won't support Dean.

I was on the fence between the two but Kerry's campaign has dissapointed me too many times and shown to be something less than the strongest which is the only reason I'm not a Kerry supporter. But I really wanted him to be my guy.

[Imalittleteapot]

12. On the fence.

I see Kerry and think he's the man.
Next day I hear Dean and get excited.
I've donated to both campaigns.
Actually, there is atleast a little that I like about all of the candidates, except Sen. Leiberman.
If Clark enters the pool, the confusion is really going throw me a loop because I like him too.

[onehandle]

13. If I admit that....

I'll end up on a certain list here at DU.

So I refuse to admit that I support Kerry, but I love Howard Dean.

;-)

I will admit that next Fall, I'll just look for the damn D.

[THUNDER HANDS]

14. yup

Dean outhustles Kerry, which pisses me off to no end.

Kerry, I believe, is majorly pissed off right now, and I would be too if I were him.

First Bush and Rove plant that Congressional Resolution trap on him (and I think the resolution was originally named the "Box Kerry Into A Corner" resolution).

Then he has a guy like Dean come at him, from the left of all places! Which, in and of itself, is shocking, considering Kerry is, BY FAR, the most left-liberal candidate running on all the major issues.

And now it appears that what I originally feared would happen is probably going to play out.

Dean cuts down on Kerry winning in New Hampsire. Kerry cuts down Dean winning in Iowa and both will probably cancel eachother out come South Carolina.

Meaning this is gonna be a primary WAAAAAY past when everyone would have orignially expected their to be a locked-up nominee.

Good for democracy, not so good for the Democratic Party.

[piece sine]

39. you got it!

once in a while someone around here simply NAILS it.

[CMT]

16. Firm for Dean

will strongly support Kerry should he be our nominee.

[Starpass]

17. Remember I had a post that said I'm a Kerry fan who wants Dean as

my president??--I said that because I have no beef with Dean, his in your face, and his policies. I don't care if he changes a few here and there; shit they all do. My objection was on pure electability....I just think Bush's 300 million warchest will focus this whole race on defense/war, etc.; that the American people, evenif they don't like the war now, get real funny about someone opposing it because they think that means opposing our troops. I wanted someone (and Clark will do as well) who has the military "thing" going for them and, thus, the fear that must waft through 1600 Penn. Ave. of the words AWOL behing whispered.

[TheYellowDog]

19. I like Howard Dean too

But I'm still supporting Kerry in the primaries. :D

[Zolok]

20. I got no beef with Governor Dean

I met him a few months ago and he was perfectly affable in every way.
His on-line supporters though can all kiss my fat Irish ass.
:)
www.chimesatmidnight.blogspot.com

[villageidiot]

21. I like Kerry. I like Dean.

I just don't care much for some of the cult-like Dean supporters. I'm afraid if Dean doesn't get the nod we'll see a repeat of 1968. Some of these people are wound a little too tight.

Hey, you didn't want this thread to be all warm and fuzzy, did you?

[WillyT]

22. Great Thread !!! --- I'm A Dean Supporter Who Likes Kerry Too !!!

I will support the Dem candidate no matter what!!!

And I think I'll leave it right there... :scared: LOL!!!

:hi:

[robbedvoter]

23. Ha!ha! Clark sure is a uniter!

I actually appreciate the sentiments in this thread, but after Will's previous thread his motivation is a bit disingenuous.
But again, a long way from: Gore supporters should give up drafting efforts!
I also try to find what is good in every candidate.

[TheDonkey]

24. Kerry, Clark, and Dean

They would all be great canidates.

I was originally a Dean fan, but he has slid to my #3rd place, still respectable. His campaign has changed the tone of this primary (and for the good!).

[Stephanie]

25. Me me me! Two GREAT candidates!

I'm THRILLED to be torn between these two awesome candidates. When I have to choose, my vote will go to the one who is fiercest in his determination to destroy the BFEE.

[curse10]

27. I don't hate Dean, but I don't like him either

Sorry, Will. Can't agree with ya here. :shrug:

[WillyT]

36. There's Always One In The Crowd, LOL !!!

:spank:

[gully]

28. Another Dean supporter who doesn't hate Kerry...

:shrug:

I agree that we have numerous great candidates!

;)

[John_H]

29. I'm with ya but vice vera

A Dean man who looooooves Kerry.

[WaterDog]

30. If you love Howard Dean,

then why do you support Kerry? Sorry, if already known--I'm a newcomer.

:thumbsup: Greatest respects to you, Mr. Pitt.

[mitchum]

31. I support Kerry, but Dean is also a fine candidate (as is Kucinich and

Moseley-Braun) I will work tirelessly for the eventual nominee

[retread]

32. I'm with you on this one. I've contributed to BOTH campaigns.

There can't be too many voices raised against what has taken over our country.

[patrice]

33. An "embarassment of riches," but Dean's my pick

He got out ahead, and he wasn't afraid all of those months when all of us were going "What's the matter with the real leadership in this country?" Things were going to hell here; after the vote, none of them were saying anything against this damned war, and then Dean came along. I personally owe him for the hope he gave me and a bunch of other people. I also like an *aggressive* unapologetic intelligence. Somebody who doesn't take any shit off all of the shit mongers around. Not a reactionary though, someone who gets out ahead and keeps control of the discourse. Dean's my guy!

Kerry is very hard to resist. He definitely has everything it takes to impress people who are undecided. He's elegant. His more laid-back intelligence is quite attractive. I like very much what he said this evening about how the war shouldn't be a war; it should be an effort based upon inernational intelligence and strategic international police action. That needs to be said over and over again.

I want to hear more about Environmental issues and Jobs.

[never cry wolf]

34. I am still undecided

but I absolutely love that Dean has brought shrub's record and Iraq to the fore as an issue and has really forced the other candidates, who may have otherwise shied away worrying about the centrists voter, to address it as well once they saw hope well those messages played with the public.

I also love that he has garnered alot of support from independents and even dissillusioned repugs, hopefully they will stay with the message if Dean does not prevail.

Oh, I do like kerry and the rest as well, ceptin for joe.

[UTUSN]

35. Well, Heck, Sounds Like a Thread *I* Would Join into n/t

[oasis]

37. I give Dean credit for keeping the Dem's from jumping ship.

[ScreamingMeemie]

38. One I support wholeheartedly, and one I will support if he gets the

nomination.

[Ellen Forradalom]

40. I support Dean, but I'm impressed with Kerry.

I've been very impressed with him at the various fora and the debate.

[stickdog]

41. I support Dean. I see hope in Kerry and Clark, and I'm keeping an

open mind about them.

[Andromeda]

42. Dean is pretty cute ...

but I wouldn't know about the stud part---maybe if I'd known him twenty years ago we...Ooops, never mind. Political badass would fit him more. You can't help but love the guy. I know I do. I think his persona exudes kind of a raw sex appeal, virility and strength.


That said, if Kerry were to win the nomination I would happily support him. He has the ability to lead and has a distinguished record in the Senate and the military service.

[incontrovertible]

43. I have to ask, Mr. Pitt

First of all, I'm going to be addressing you as "Mr. Pitt" henceforth, out of respect for that jaw-droppingly professional performance on TV tonight. Really just quite excellent - in about five minutes, you made Stepanapholous's performance in The War Room look like child's play.

Secondly, I have to ask: Why Kerry? What specific proposals? What specific accomplishments? And in all candor, what do you think about the charisma factor? Kerry may be a fine man and accomplished Democrat, but he's no Jerry Brown.

I'm leaning heavily Dean at this point, for a variety of positions as well as my dealmaker, the relegation of gun control to the states. Police response time may well be less then a minute where you are, but it's a solid half hour for many people I know, and I have personally attended the funerals of four people murdered in their own homes by random intruders. Not giving up the shotgun, know what I'm saying?

Much respect and admiration again for an exquisite performance tonight.

[MrPrax]

44. Dean...Clinton...Four More Years?

"Dean is a stud, a political badass who has put together a from-zero-to-frontrunner campaign"

That's Clinton
and so the program is to Compromise? Again
and Again? and Again?

Your opinions are uncanny and germane...but Kerry? or Dean?
Is this more of the same "you have to work within the system to change the system?" stuff...
or in a previous generation and a previous struggle, "Go Slow"?

thx



Dean supports 'pre-emptive' strikes like Haiti instead of 'moral' choices

[candy331]

45. Kerry(new poster

I am a new poster here and just wanted someone to please tell me what Kerry's foreign political experience is. I know he was in the Vietnam war and has a purple heat ribbon but what else? I will more than likely be a first time ever voter and am looking at all the candidates at this point. Thanks!