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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 02:13 PM
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GOP = Grumpy Old Pornographers

http://westchesterweekly.com/gbase/News/content?oid=oid:96021


The last presidential election, we were told ad nauseum, was decided on "moral values." But what about the GOP's porn connection. As the Washington Post's Terry Neal recently wrote, "corporate leaders at companies as diverse as News Corp., Marriott International and Time Warner can profit by selling red-state consumers the very material that red-state culture is supposed to despise. Those elites then funnel the proceeds to the GOP, which in turn has used the money to successfully convince red-state voters that the other political party is solely responsible for the decline of the civilization." Neal cites two court cases involving so-called pornographic films--in Utah and Ohio--that have revealed in two of the "reddest" areas in America, the "community standards" included a huge consumption of porn, even among Mormons.

Timothy Egan, in an earlier piece for The New York Times, wrote, "The General Motors Corporation, the world's largest company, now sells more graphic sex films every year than Larry Flynt, owner of the Hustler empire. The 8.7 million Americans who subscribe to DirecTV, a General Motors subsidiary, buy nearly $200 million a year in pay-per-view sex films from satellite providers." Also, Rupert Murdoch--owner of Fox News and an ardent pro-Bush conservative--"makes more money selling graphic adult films through its satellite subsidiary than Playboy, the oldest and best-known company in the sex business, does with its magazine, cable and Internet businesses combined."

Finally, AT&T, once the nation's largest communications company, offers a hardcore sex channel and owns a company that offers sex videos to a million hotel rooms in America. One in five of AT&T's customers pay $10 a film to see "real, live all-American sex--not simulated by actors." AT&T is--do I even need to add this?--one of the largest donors to the Republican Party.
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eleonora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 02:18 PM
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1. Down with porn!
Let's see if the banning of porn will go anywhere...hahaha. Bunch of hypocrits white males going to church and holding anti-abortion signs to then go home , hide from their equally zealot (and naive) wives to get their porno fix. And they're 'moral value' voters. PFFFFF......
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New Democrat Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 02:32 PM
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2. Nothing wrong with porn!
I'm glad the GOP agrees with me on something!
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 02:55 PM
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3. there is something the matter with porn

and it doesn't have anything to do with religion.
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Guns Aximbo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 02:59 PM
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4. yeah, you're right
porn IS NOT good for you. Porn is soooo unlike real life sex. I'm no prude - really I'm not.

If porn is okay then you wouldn't mind your daughter being involved - regardless of her age.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 03:15 PM
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5. Exacly how is porn bad for you?
Want to provide some scientific evidence for that? Or just some ancedotal evidence for Concerned Women for America or Focus on the Family?

It is entertainment, that's all.

I wouldn't want my daughter to be a coal miner either. Does that mean that I shouldn't be using electricity?
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 03:34 PM
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7. child porn is very bad for the child victums - wouldn't you say?

wouldn't you?
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 03:52 PM
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9. child porn is ILLEGAL this is not what we're talking about
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New Democrat Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 04:34 PM
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13. lol what does child porn have to do with anything?
i said there is nothing wrong with porn, child porn is horrible.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 03:38 PM
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8. sex as entertainment - interesting concept


if this is the wave of the future then we must teach our children the difference between lust and love or they will be forever emotionally tangled.
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Guns Aximbo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:15 PM
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14. twhy wouldn't you
want your daughter getting ass fucked on screen?
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:42 PM
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15. ultimately it would be her decision
And just because that may not be what I wish for her, does not make me think it should be illegal. I wouldn't want her to spend her life as a clerk at Wal-mart either.

In fact, my main concern would be for her health, as girls who take this kind of pounding often have problems with anal leakage later in life.

The fact is, she is not the kind of person who would chose that for a living. But she does clerk in my store occasionally when she is not at school. And if she did chose to go into porn, I would want to make sure she is informed of the risks, which actually is done by the good folks at AIM (adult industry medicine) when she takes the STD tests required by all the porn studios before performing (and every month thereafter).

They have a porn 101 tape that actually scares a lot of the girls out of the business before they even start.

Being a porn actress isn't for everyone, but there are some that it is suited to. I think one of our main problems with sex in our society is that we have this vision of how it should be (a sacred monogomous union bewteen two loving partners), when the reality is that sexuality is as varied as any other aspect of the human condition.







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Desperadoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 03:27 PM
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6. Now you know why
The Federal Judge in Pittsburgh dismissed the pornography case against Rob Black and Extreme Associates. It sure didn't have anything to do with "values" or "community standards" nor was it a victory for civil liberties.

There is only one value that the Republican party stands for and that is the value of the almighty dollar. Everything else is just salad dressing.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 03:53 PM
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10. Not a victory for your
"civil liberty" to be able to decide what I can view in the privacy of my own home?

The judge was very correct in his ruling.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 04:07 PM
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11. OOH! Lookie. More porn bashing.
Edited on Sat Jan-22-05 04:08 PM by Touchdown
:eyes:

While I agree about GOP hypocrisy, get off the soapbox. You can't justify the exploitation angle when the women involved in the business make $3000+ a scene.

Oh, and AT&T? For 2004...

$335,000 to Repugs
$309,000 to Dems

CWA- who has a labor contract with AT&T? $22,600,000. 100% to Dems.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.asp?ID=D000000063&Name=AT%26T

You're right, you didn't have to say it, because it's a lie.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 04:21 PM
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12. Dick, Colon, and Bush = Name of porno movie.
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