Why do Creationists not have a problem with astronomy and physics?

[expatriot]

Genesis clearly states the earth was created on the first day and that the sun and the moon and the stars were not created until the fourth day. Doesn't that place all of modern astronomy and Newtonian physics in direct contradiction with God's Word?

Plus, vegetation was created on the third day, one full day before the creation of the sun. (photosynthesis, anyone?)

[Liberal Veteran]

1. Some actually do...

Try explaining to someone that at the speed of light, it would have taken millions of years for the the light from another galaxy to reach earth and many creationists get all bent out of shape.

[wryter2000]

14. Exactly

Radiocarbon dating is a real problem for them, so they reject that, as well.

[TWiley]

17. Therefore, the message of Christ has spread only 1/150,000th

the distance across the Milky Way Galaxy. This fact tends to fire 'em up too.

[Selteri]

21. I know one who is militantly anti-science

Yet she uses a computer, drives to work and listens to the Radio and watches the TV.

[Az]

2. Bonus question: Which came first, man or animals?

[expatriot]

3. even better... god created male and female animals on the same day...

...but for some reason overlooked the need for female humans at first.

[expatriot]

4. evidently God expected Man to satisfy his needs through bestiality :)

[expatriot]

5. or **gasp** homosexu--- no....

[annabanana]

7. oh hahahahahah

naughty naughty
:spank:

[Az]

6. Actually its a bit more confused than that

In Gen 1 he creates animals, man, then woman. In Gen 2 he makes man and woman, and then animals.

[ashmanonar]

8. so the people who "wrote" the bible

don't have a freaking clue?

seems logical.

[Az]

9. Clues yes

Enough? Perhaps not.

[ashmanonar]

13. indeed. n/t

[expatriot]

10. yeah... now i remember, there are two creation stories in Genesis.

[Az]

11. Keep in mind though

This is not problematic to those that view the bible as allegory or metaphor. Both stories work to convey the necissary message intended.

To a literalist though it is going to be problematic. Though they have spent 2000 years working to explain away such inconsistancies. They have gotten very good at explaining such things to themself if not their critics.

[johnaries]

18. You're Right! I never caught that before!

In Gen 1 God created the animals on the fifth day, and man on the sixth.

In Gen 2, God created man and put him in Eden to tend it. Then, god decided man needed a "help meet" and formed the animals and brought them to Adam to be named.

After no suitable help meet could be found among the animals (what about dogs?), God created EVE.

What was Moses smoking? What KIND of "burning bush" was that?
:spank:

[DBoon]

16. Or Onanism

or whatever cute name they give to self-indulgence

[johnaries]

12. Because, just like the Fossil Record,

Satan put it there to confuse and tempt us.

Good ol' Satan - he can be blamed for everything!

[corbett]

26. Jurassic Park Was Directed By A Jew

I'm a Christian who has no problem reconciling astronomy with creationism. I love Spielberg's movies, too. I guess I'm out of the mainstream.

[TWiley]

15. Creation can be used for racist viewpoints, astronomy cannot.

Therefore, those sciences do not effect their agenda.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/cr_ident.htm

The relationship between Christianity and Militarism.

http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/identity.html

I have often wondered what the animals ate in the beginning. What would happen if we put two bunnies, and two foxes in the same area.

Well, there would be two species that would become extinct.

[Toots]

19. Not to mention that "God's Day" was much longer than man's day

Vegetation was created one full day before the sun. One full "God's Day" which I have heard church goers say was thousands of years long.

[AndyTiedye]

20. THEY DO! That's Why * Ordered NASA to Bring Down the Hubble

The Hubble Telescope is the most popular thing NASA has done in decades,
but Boosh** want's it gone, because it disproves the biblical creation myths.

[ashmanonar]

22. any rational/logical approach is in direct conflict with "god's word".

only emotional or irrational approaches are plausible under the word of god. while those things are important too, we've gotta remember that rational and irrational go hand in hand: to ignore one is to be bowled over by the other.

[flyingfysh]

23. Have you forgotten Galileo?

That is an example of fundamentalists of a different era having a considerable problem with astronomy. It was hundreds of years before Catholics admitted their mistake.

As for current American Fundamentalists, if they defeat evolution, they may well go after the Big Bang next. Or maybe it will be geology.

The only field of science that is safe from them is mathematics.

[SmokingJacket]

24. Yeah, why no stickers on physics textbooks?

Is it because creationists don't take the hard classes?

[FreakinDJ]

25. Genesis not to be taken literally

That is what a priest told me

The story is unequivocally flawed. Who was there to witness the creation and pass the story along?

From a catholic point of view the book of Genesis is to be interpreted as the big bang was the result of divine intervention. Just where these Fundies get off trying to pass it as historical fact is a mystery to me.

Just proves what a bunch of demented zealots they really are

[ChairOne]

27. Um, there's a whole field called "history"...

Read the preface/introduction to Kant's first Critque, for example.

Learn about a guy named Galileo.

Pick up some material regarding "the science wars".

They have humungous problems with science of *all* kinds. It's well known. Has been since the Copernican Revolution (see Kuhn's wonderful book). It's well-documented. It's not new.

Hell, even Einstein had problems of this general nature - albeit of a somewhat more abstract variety.