I just have to rant about "fighting terrorists on the streets of Baghdad..

[lindashaw]

instead of here."

First off, we all know, except Larry Kudlow and Jim Cramer, that BinLaden didn't come from the streets of Baghdad. Jim said just now how afraid he had been to go to work in NYC after 9/11, and that he was glad we had "taken the war to them."

Do we have any idea of how BAD that sounds? We are so free with our "chocolate makers" and "Old Europe" etc., I don't know how people stand us.

Oh, I can't even talk about it anymore, I'm so angry!

[moosedog]

1. You must be young...

Dumb people think that way they want to think. Your truth and their's is not the same thing. I know it is maddening. How well I know. Think of it this way....they will end up confused by their own lies, and never see the power and happiness of love. That is the way of Mother Nature, or God or whatever it is that is.

[this_side_up]

2. every time one of them

paraphrases the we took the war to them over there, I think
they are inviting another attack here.

Especially since they laid off workers at the Canadian
border and they made damned sure that info was in the papers
for 2-3 days.

I guess that is just one way beautiful minds work

[plcdude]

3. want you to know

that there are many of us out here that have the very same reaction. My son 24 years old stopped by for a visit this weekend. Hadn't spoken to him for few months. He is moving to Dallas to look for work and we started talking about the current administration. He was so informed and so anti * that my sense of pride in him rose to new levels. There are many of us out here that feel as you do and become so frustrated. When I hear fighting for our freedom it makes me want to break something. Anytime I hear the concept of freedom associated with the never ending war on terrorism, it just makes me see red. How can these simplisms espoused by this administration be accepted by us? It is beyond me and so I lift myself up again and continue to try to influence those around me to seek the truth.

[MO_Dem]

4. That argument is so immoral

What would Jesus say? I find it incomprehensible that this bunch of self-righteous people who claim to be "Christian" can actually make that argument. Somehow they want us to believe that it is okay to get innocent Iraqis killed in order to protect ourselves. Where does that leave their argument that the Iraqi people are better off without Sadam, because he killed and tortured innocent people?

It proves that Bush cares nothing for the people or Iraq, and this will insure that we never "win their hearts and minds". If he cared, he would not be trying to justify completely destroying their country and endangering the lives of their families.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

5. The insulting lie, fiction, myth, is that ALL terrorists are now in Iraq

Did anyone notice that Bush is making it sound like the solution to the war on terror now lies soley in Iraq? You would think terrorists are queing up, taking numbers, and waiting to get into Iraq just to confront us in there. :wtf:
How dumb does Bush think we are? It is truly an insultingly simplistic portayal of the situation.

[MGKrebs]

6. Has shrub, or any of his crew for that matter,

ever defined what they mean when they say "terrorist"?

I cannot figure out what it means, and I can't figure out what they mean when they say it. Except for the idea that some people are good, and some people are evil. If they both do the same thing, the good people are patriots, and the evil people are terrorists. But then you get into defining who is "good" and who is "evil".

[library_max]

7. To the Bush Administration

"patriotic" and "pro-American" are the same thing, no matter what country you live in. That patriotic Iraqis would of course resist a foreign invasion of their country by the United States is something that does not seem to occur to them. Anybody opposed to the U.S. war machine is by definition a "terrorist."

[bigtree]

8. Occupation makes it more likely someone will want to attack the US

The occupation does what Hussien could not; it binds Iraqis to the Muslim extremists, or anyone else who would threaten the American occupiers. That is the recipe for a perpetual conflict. There will always be an endless line of Muslim extremists there to take pot shots at our troops. The steady loss of American lives makes 'progress' against terrorism hard to quantify. Internationalizing the force may lessen the impact on Americans there. The argument that we will exhaust the supply of regional extremists by drawing them into Iraq is bogus. More likely we are fomenting more regional animosity by our uni-multi-ilateral presence there which I believe provides the environment for the recruitment of more young terrorists.