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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:47 PM
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Poll question: The Democratic Underground and the ideology of its members
I only have spaces for 10 choices and I've had to combine choices to fit them on the poll. Apologies if your choice is not included.

I've often wondered how people on DU describe themselves ideologically, as not all of us (though possibly most of us) are Liberal. Vote away, I'll be interested in the results... and post a message if you can.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:52 PM
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1. Where would I fit as a person who believes,...
,...social & economic justice are prerequisites to a healthy democracy?
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:57 PM
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4. Democratic Socialists believe that more than most
Social Democrats, Liberals and other elements listed also do, but not to the same extent.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:02 PM
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6. So, I am non-ideological.
Yes?
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:05 PM
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9. You could say that if you aren't able to narrow yourself down
to a particular category. You would be non-ideological if you approach political choices and issues on a case-by-case basis.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:19 PM
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17. Thank you. eom
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Undercover Owl Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:53 PM
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2. just a garden variety liberal.
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 06:54 PM by Undercover Owl
More liberal than most people.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:56 PM
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3. Push Poll!!!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:57 PM
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5. What's the Democratic Socialist one mean?
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 06:58 PM by Bouncy Ball
What I think it means? Because I am really liberal, but also have socialistic tendencies.

So, whereever that would be on the chart...

Oh and I love progressive populism. I'm a hodge-podge!
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:02 PM
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7. Democratic Socialists
Deeply believe in social justice (which is why they call themselves socialists). Philosophically they are for collective responsibility and working together in society. They are for very progressive taxation and higher pay should only be based upon merit. They also believe that there should be gradual reform of the economy from a capitalist system to a socialist one. They believe that major industries should be run by the government and administered for the needs of the people rather than for profit.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:14 PM
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15. Hmmm, sounds pretty good to me.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 08:13 PM
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21. if you really want to know, please read this ...
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:04 PM
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8. Progressive Populist
You know, like a few people you might have heard of: Birch Bayh, Harry Truman, etc...
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:09 PM
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11. Bring Birch Bayh back now!
I miss him.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 07:01 AM
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33. While we're at it, let's bring back Mike Mansfield, Frank Church,
Edited on Mon Jan-24-05 07:03 AM by Art_from_Ark
Scoop Jackson, Bill Fulbright, George McGovern, and Thomas Eagleton, too! Heck, even Everett Dirksen and Margaret Chase Smith! They were all head and shoulders over most of what pass for Senators these days!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 10:17 AM
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34. Hi, Art from Ark. You know, I do miss the senators of --
-- that era, the ones who were nominally partisan but actually public servants. Frank Church is a really good example. I'm partial to Bayh because my aunt was a co-delegate with him to two conventions and I got to hobnob with him and a handful of other Dem celebs. Thrilled the hell out of me.

You mention T. Eagleton. What is he doing these days? I think we gave him the bum's rush in 1972 when he was doing his part to help our cause. Eagleton's son Terry was interviewed by a newscaster the night of his father's nomination. I think Terry must have been about 7 or something -- pretty young anyway. I remember that the kid got the best of the newscaster and then some.

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justy329 Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:06 PM
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10. other- moderate liberal n/t
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ExclamationPoint Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:11 PM
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12. I voted Radical Liberal
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 07:17 PM by ExclamationPoint
Because I'm always talking about politics, and so I wouldn't consider
myself just a person with generally liberal ideas. But I suppose I couldn't say I'm liberal to the point of an insane partisan. Yet I only know a couple people who are as leftist, progressive, and any other synonym for "Massachusetts Liberal" you can think of as me. I stand by my open-minded thoughts.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:11 PM
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13. Good post, AS.
Thank you.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:14 PM
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16. Thanks, I appreciate your comments n/t
:toast: :)
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:13 PM
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14. Some useful definitions from Wikipedia
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:22 PM
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18. More definitions...
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 02:24 AM
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31. Wikipedia is actually a good encyclopedia
surprisingly so. It seems better than others I've looked at.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 02:51 AM
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32. I agree, I can lose hours just looking up random things on it
:)
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:31 PM
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19. I call myself a libertarian liberal
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 07:58 PM by American Tragedy
It would be too time-consuming to try to explain my entire philosophy and all of my political positions, so I'll try to hit the major points. I believe in Western individualist tradition, not in the conservative mold of unmitigated avarice, but rather in the sense of individuals enriching themselves intellectually, freely engaged in diverse cultures, countercultures, and lifestyles.

I generally follow the principle that consenting adults should be free of government impositions on their minds and bodies. If their behavior or expression offends someone or some group, they can try to work that out amongst themselves. The government and the courts should rightfully intervene only as a last resort, to protect citizens' rights, not to merely punish people who violate someone else's view of the status quo.

I support Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, prescription drug coverage and price negotiation, welfare, progressive income tax, raising salaries of teachers and others in the public sector, funding for infrastructure and road reconstruction, corporate regulations, labor protections, etc. However, I am intensely opposed to waste of taxpayers' dollars on elective wars, punitive drug law enforcement, pork barrel spending, redundant weapons projects, propaganda campaigns, politicians' luxuries, and other excesses, especially when there is public debt.

Overall, my ideal government would be significantly smaller than the current administration, which is the most bloated bureaucracy in history, and my ideal economy would spend considerably less (which certainly defies the stereotype of leftists as big government and big spending).
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 08:10 PM
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20. Social Pragmatist.
Which is a tough-love liberal.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 08:48 PM
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22. I voted for Democratic Socialist.....
..though my husband (a R-wingnut) tells his friends I'm Left of Revolution!
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 09:11 PM
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23. Progressive Populist
Or at least that's what I was according to this quiz I took in government class once.

Belief in social equality + "You deserve a well-paying job" + "The government needs to get the hell out of your personal life and stay there" = Progressive Populism.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 12:38 AM
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24. Thank you for a representative poll
Much better than the other one based on three shades of liberal.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 01:33 AM
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26. Thank you, I appreciate your comments
:toast:
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 01:04 AM
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25. I met a Libertarian socialist guy in Maryland...
what a piece of work, basically a neo-Nazi. I certainly hope his ideological stripe wouldn't be hanging around DU.
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 01:45 AM
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28. Hmm...
I doubt he was a libsocialist.

Chomsky considers himself a libertarian socialist...

I think neo-Nazi's probably consider themselves fascists more than anything :)
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 01:34 AM
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27. Liberal by the grace of God and his liberal Jew son, Jesus!
Liberal till I DIE! :bounce:
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 02:02 AM
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29. libertarian (small-L) socailist here baby
:hi:
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Solar Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 02:15 AM
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30. Social Democrat
Capitalism is just like government, it needs to have checks and balances set on it. There are just too many important situations where government needs to step in and corperations step out.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 10:21 AM
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35. Frankly, I have no clue what category I fall in... except it's mine. n/t
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 10:31 AM
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36. I hate labels
I took one of those tests, and it said I was hanging out with the Dalai Lama ideologically. I like his books, his writting makes me feel good.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 10:34 AM
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37. Other. I'm in favor of Direct Democracy
The ideology in question is less important, as long as the decisions taken are rooted in the people by democratic participation, and with a free flow of information to make that decision come out right ;-)
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