Just a Reminder-The Nuremberg Principles-Synopsis

[poe]

Principle1. Any person that commits an act that constitutes a crime under international law is responsible therefore and liable to punishment.

Principle3. The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime under international law acted as Head of State or responsible government official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law.

Principle6. the crimes hereinafter set out are punishable as crimes under international law:
(a) Crimes against peace:
(i) Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances

(b) War Crimes

Violations of the laws or customs of war which include, but are not limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation of slave labor or for any purposes of the civilian population of or in occupied territory' murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns, or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity.

Fallujah

[Eric J in MN]

1. Alberto Gonzales says Bush can declare

an entire war exempt from war crimes laws:

http://www.moveleft.com/moveleft_essay_2005_01_08_alberto_gonzalez_has_no_respect_for_the_law.asp

Senators should not confirm a man who views the laws they pass on war crimes as something the president can void.

If you have a Democratic Senator, please ask him or her to filibuster against the appointment of Alberto Gonzales.

On a weekday...

dial 1-800-839-5276 (Capitol Hill Switchboard), ask to be transferred to the office of your Democratic Senator, and leave a message requesting that the Senator filibuster against Alberto Gonzales.

[htuttle]

2. The US has completely shat on Justice Jackson's legacy

Chief Prosecutor, Nuremberg (and US Supreme Court Justice)
http://www.roberthjackson.org/index.asp

From his opening statement:

The privilege of opening the first trial in history for crimes against the peace of the world imposes a grave responsibility. The wrongs which we seek to condemn and punish have been so calculated, so malignant, and so devastating, that civilization cannot tolerate their being ignored, because it cannot survive their being repeated. That four great nations, flushed with victory and stung with injury stay the hand of vengeance and voluntarily submit their captive enemies to the judgment of the law is one of the most significant tributes that Power has ever paid to reason.

(...)


Our position is that whatever grievances a nation may have, however objectionable it finds the status quo, aggressive warfare is an illegal means for settling those grievances or for altering those conditions. It may be that the Germany of the 1920's and 1930's faced desperate problems, problems that would have warranted the boldest measures short of war. All other methods-persuasion, propaganda, economic competition, diplomacy-were open to an aggrieved country, but aggressive warfare was outlawed. These defendants did make aggressive war, a war in violation of treaties. They did attack and invade their neighbors in order to effectuate a foreign policy which they knew could not be accomplished by measures short of war. And that is as far as we accuse or propose to inquire.

http://www.roberthjackson.org/theman2-7-8.asp

All of it, covered with poop now.

[poe]

3. superb post

this i will link and copy, edit down and pass around town. things are so far out of control i'm musing as to what my responsibilities are, in what ways can i pressure my local rep. who is superb and so on. the vulgarity is at hyperspeed.

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4. Been wondering about the same thing regarding our responsibilities

When I was growing up, I thought pretty poorly of the German people due to WWII (though I'm about 1/3 German ancestry myself). I always thought, "how could they let that happen?" "Why didn't they rise up?" I felt they allowed Hitler to do what he did.

Nowdays, I can understand how it could happen. I'm watching it firsthand. Do I allow Bush to do what he does? Singularly? No. As a nation? Yes, we do. But we're relentlessly propagandized on so many levels, all the time

I've got family members that buy into his crap (somewhat). I've even had to talk down liberal family members from going into a 'terror panic' (OMG!!! AIIIIEEEE!!!!!!) because of something they'd seen on the news (Don't watch cable news, Ma!). The propaganda is powerful, carefully marketed, and omnipresent (and reinforced by peer pressure in many cases).

What are my responsibilities? If I knew where the 'OFF' switch was, I'd have flipped it years ago...

[robbedvoter]

5. however objectionable the status quo - even tyrany then? Wow!

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6. Revolutions are legal. Invasions are not.

Tyranny is an internal condition of a country. A revolution against a tyrannical government would not be a war of aggression, since no country is getting invaded.

However, an invasion by another country to 'overthrow (replace) tyranny' is NOT legal, no matter how good the propaganda.

[K-W]

8. Our government may be nominally democratic in the US,

It has no legal standing in Iraq. It can therefore be no other than an illegal invasion regardless of its motives.

The Bush adminstration is arguing vigilantiism in international law.

[htuttle]

9. True

By breaking every pact of trust we've established with the rest of the countries in the world (save one or two) since WWII, they've taken us back to the days of international barbarism.

But with nukes this time.

[evolvenow]

7. Lawsuit filed against President Bush,Vice President Cheney-PNAC

Lawsuit filed against President Bush,Vice President Cheney-
PNAC
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7751.ht...
Doug Wallace
WASHINGTON -- January 18 "Information Clearing House" --  A lawsuit was filed late Friday January 14th in the U.S. District Court in Reno, Nevada against President Bush and Vice President Cheney. The lawsuit alleges that both defendants have acted outside the scope of their job description in waging a war against Iraq. The complaint alleges that both defendants and others working within the White House and Defense Department have covertly implemented a white paper called “Rebuilding America’s Defenses:” as presented by the Project for the New American Century or PNAC in September, 2000 two months before the murky elections of that year. Among the persons signing the paper were Richard Cheney and Jeb Bush. While the paper was published on the internet, implementation of it by the White House has been in secret.
The thrust of the white paper calls for the complete domination of the globe by the US with wars against Iraq, Syria, and Iran, domination of outer space and of Cyberspace. It calls for an enlarged military to fight simultaneous wars. Security bases world wide with extensive constabulary forces posted to keep all nations subservient to US military and economic power. It also calls for nuclear rockets to be fired from Spy satellites to suppress any challenge to US global domination.
The class action lawsuit filed by retired attorney and great-grandfather, Doug Wallace alleges that the defendants have violated their oaths of office in entering into a private treaty relating to International relations without approval of the Congress and have made a mockery of the Constitution under a false banner of a war on terrorism.
The lawsuit seeks an injunction against further implementation of the PNAC plan without a 2/3 vote of the congress and a full disclosure to the American Public. It also names John Does 1-100 as defendants. The suit seeks restitution to the US Treasury from all Defendants of the cost of the war with Iraq and also seeks a ruling that since the deception about the war and execution of it was outside of their job descriptions they should all be individually liable to private persons injured as a result of their illegal conduct. To view Complaint go to www.dougwallace.com Under the circumstances, notice of support to the court would be appropriate (A printable copy is available at page 26 on website ). CONTACT: Founders Freedom Defense Fund : Doug Wallace 775-833-5010