kuozzman
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:25 PM
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Is anybody else watching William Kristol on CSPAN? |
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William Kristol(founder of PNAC) just said he hasn't talked to Rummy of Wolfy in 3-4 months of so and that his calls to the defense department are probably screened (blocked).
Is he full of it?
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:32 PM
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1. Does he appear to be getting smaller? |
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Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 01:32 PM by Richardo
He's back-pedaling his ass off...
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RobertSeattle
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:32 PM
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2. He wrote some anti Rummy things a few months ago |
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Speak truth to power and you are on the outs, even if you were a neo-con.
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:33 PM
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3. Yes, absolutely. Don't believe him. |
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Kristol telegraphs "the plan" blow by blow for them. He consistently tries to distance himself publicly, so as to be taken seriously by the public at large.
He is a huge deceiver in this regard. Nothing the PNAC cabal does happens without Kristol's signature all over it. Especially with his pet project of Iran heating up on the front burner.
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:56 PM
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Machiavellian: suggesting the principles of conduct laid down by Machiavelli; specif: characterized by cunning, duplicity, or bad faith.
Machiavellianism: the political theory of Machiavelli; esp: the view that politics is amoral and that any means however unscrupulous can justifiably be used in achieving political power.
It doesn't matter what a guy like Kristol writes in the newspaper when he disagrees with Rumsfeld, or calls for his resignation. It's all a show. They're on the same page. They have the same goals.
If Kristol has to come out and write something critical of Rumsfeld, to take some heat off because all these nuts are in this thing together, then he'll do it. It won't make Rumsfeld change what he's doing, because it's not a real criticism. Kristol probably calls Rumsfeld up the day before to tell him he'll do it. Or, he probably doesn't even have to do that. They all went to, or have been involved with, the same school in Chicago, and the same philosophy. They're just playing with us.
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:35 PM
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4. amazing.... saying that Bush has no exit strategy, never promised one |
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and we should take him at his word.
So spinning this that instead of Bush being a complete moron that didn't plan properly, it's good he has no exit strategy!
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:37 PM
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5. fuck billy!...i loathe the man..and yes i'm watching Meehan is calling for |
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troop withdrawls and most there are too...but the slug billy seems to be running his yap the most against it..:grr:...why does everyone defer to these neocon pond scummers?
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:39 PM
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6. He talks with such authority |
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so people listen. He is full of lies, one after another. GRRRRR!!! I have always though this guy was not too smart, contrary to what repubs think.
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:41 PM
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7. If any of them were as smart as they pretend |
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We would not be off on this ridiculous world conquest scheme. Their plans are godawful and the execution is worse.
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:58 PM
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11. they sound so bold when they make their ridiculous predictions |
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:59 PM
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13. No sigs today I guess |
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Tue Jan-25-05 02:05 PM
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14. Richard Perle, 9/22/03 |
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http://www.aei.org/events/contentID.20031003144313426/default.aspAnd a year from now, I'll be very surprised if there is not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush.
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:48 PM
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I didn't know that, although I admit I'm not up on PNAC as much as I should be. I was listening to Kristol on CSpan radio waiting for the Senate hearing to kick back up. Is it just or can you almost feel his Buckley like smart as smirk over the radio?
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:59 PM
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And he is editor of The Weekly Standard, funded by Rupert Murdoch.
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:53 PM
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the whole fallout b/w Kristol and Rummy is as fake as the fallout with Chalabi.
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