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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 03:56 PM
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Why do the freepers think liberals are wrong to hate Bush*?
An idea just occurred to me.

Anytime a DUer or other liberal takes a swipe at the BFEE, the Kool-Aid drinkers howl with derision and discuss how deluded and ridiculous we are.

I think I know why.

During eight years of reviling Clinton's Penis, and sustaining hatred in spite of economic and civil "good times", they had to take ownership of some pretty off the wall ideas. The list of "Clinton related murders", Clinton's position on defense, yada, yada, yada. So they would automatically assume the opposition is doing the same thing, i.e., grasping at straws to revile the "Glorious Leader". These are not people who are willing to do the work to discover truth and evaluate subtlety. They just assume we're "like they are".

Makes more sense than any other explanation I've come up with for their behavior.


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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:02 PM
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1. I think they are just petty and ugly and mean and nasty
and take great delight in being the World's Biggest Hypocrites. But you could be right, too.

The first time I heard a repuke call Clinton a "rapist" and a "child molester" despite that fact that Lewinsky was consenting AND 23 years old, I knew they were out of their gourd. I mean, seriously, the fact that she was a consenting partner in this was NEVER in question, and the fact that she was 23 at the time was also never in question.

Which means he was neither a rapist nor a child molester.

Can you imagine the uproar if we used similarly vile slurs against bush?

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:03 PM
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2. But the freepers didn't hate Clinton, at least not much
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:08 PM
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4. Huh???
Which freepers are you talking about? Not the ones I know, that's for sure.


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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:39 PM
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8. Oops! May I add "scarcasm off?"
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:06 PM
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3. Deep down inside, they feel guilty about how they treated Clinton
and bush being trashed reminds them of whit shits they were.
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:09 PM
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5. I don't think so. Those evil no good sons of ** don't feel guilt.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:15 PM
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6. I've posted this before, but my summary is:
RW'ers hated Bill Clinton because he was SUCCESSFUL

We "hate" George Bush because he is a FAILURE

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:21 PM
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7. It's called brain washing
I challenge anyone here to try to listen to a right-wing, Brain washing, hate radio show like "The Neal Boortz Show," for a week, and try not to feel like you ARE being manipulated and brain washed.

The lies they tell are infuriating. He claims he's a Libertarian.:crazy:

Here's Boortz's web site <http://boortz.com/>
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:49 PM
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9. It's a mind control tool.
Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 04:50 PM by Cell Whitman
They developed this to help them shut down the pod people's mind. If they can say you are a hater of Bush, then you are somehow irrational and their minds can shut down to anything you say. I see it as a component of information control, a mind control technique.

Your criticism are not worthy of consideration. They have done this same thing in many ways over the years, including demonizing anything defined FOR THEM as "liberal." The proud and pompous pod person does not have to scrutinize, consider, or even listen to ANYTHING a "liberal" says because the poddies has been TRAINED to believe that anyone who disagrees with them is sub-human, anti-American.

From there it has been easy for the right to expand this mental manipulation into ANY criticisms of Chimpageddon. ANY.

It's part if a larger fabric of mind control.

I am serious.



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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:50 PM
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10. "The Reality of Red-State Fascism"
One answer to your question lies in the psychological function of "projection" - that is, identifying with someone or something closely so that it is, in a sense, a symbol of yourself. Thus when someone criticizes the symbol, it translates into a criticism of yourself. We've all had this experience - either with a new car, a friend or relative, an opinion we hold about something, etc. In other words, some of those on the right are identified with the president and a criticism of the president translates into a personal criticism. The problem is that some on the right as SO identified with the president (because of 9/11, he is their savior), they have on some level idolized him and there is no room in their worship of him for criticism. To criticize the president is to attempt to bring him down from the pedestal upon which they have placed him, it attempts to de-deify the president and make him a flawed human. And if that happens, what does that say about them and, more importantly, where does it leave them... without a savior. An unbearable situation. A lot of this is unconscious but we are seeing the results of it in their rabidity.


Read this article by the Lbertarian Lew Rockwell. In it he examines the right/left balance of power and chronicles the shift over the past decade. Among other things, he specifically addresses the rabid hatred coming from the right, their worship of the president, and their radical change from being pro-small government to embracing government as the solution to all problems.

It's really an interesting article, bearing in mind that the author is a Libertarian and the article is pro-Libertarian which traditionally has been ideologically opposed to the left. Now, however, he finds a closer relationship between the ideology of Libertarianism and the ideology of the left whereas they used to be closer to the right.

The Reality of Red-State Fascism
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/red-state-fascism.html

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:51 PM
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11. 9/11
9/11 is Bush's only claim to legitimacy. Period.
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