More Iraqi children killed in war than U.S. children on 9 11

[cidliz2004]

Does an right wing nut job have a good answer for that fact?

Did God create Iraqi children to be killed by a Christian Nation in the name of Peace?

[leesa]

1. They are Muslims and poor and brown...they simply don't care.

It's a sad state of affairs but they don't even acknowledge that there's a war going on. The Fundie "christians" I know don't give a rats ass and figure they deserve it for not accepting Christ.

[theresistance]

2. I actually researched how many children were killed

on 911 a while back. Now I can be corrected on this, but I didn't find anyone under 18 killed in the WTC, and I think a couple of kids were killed on planes. Again, I stand to be corrected in case I missed something...In fact its been pointed out that a case can be made to say that America has killed more Iraqi children than Saddam Hussein. Of course, there is no firm numbers on this, so please don't ask for links, but the main evidence are the sanctions where up to half a million children died according to official UN figures...

[jmatthan]

3. Can there be any comparison?

The number of children killed by 12 year sanctions was in the MILLIONS!!

By the way, take a look at the web page

The Children of Iraq

http://www.zonaeuropa.com/01467.htm

and scroll from the first to the last and then think whether you want to belong to a country which does this to CHILDREN!!

Are you then surprised if there will not be a dozen 9/11s per day!!

Or is it only those that should forgive the Americans - one way street?

Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland

[aquart]

4. Not a lot of kids in an office building.

REALLY half-witted comparison.

Try: 100,000 innocent civilians for 3,000 innocent civilians. Are we even now?

[cidliz2004]

7. There was daycare for office workers

People have a tendency to look at the death of INNOCENT children more tragic than adults. In fact "women AND children" were both thought as "innocents".

Most people can agree that children are true innocents and that there deaths are especially revolting.

Your judgement on my comments are uncalled for and I don't appreciate name calling either. Your either a Republican or just plain ignorant and rude.

[Skittles]

8. I don't believe there were any kids in the buildings

there were some on the planes

[aquart]

9. In Oklahoma. NOT the WTC.

Nobody showed up for work at that place with the kiddies in tow. Too impractical in rush hour travel. It's fine for parents in other places who drive to work, but NYC is public transportation which can be smooth or really bad and you never know which or when.

I'm sorry to thwart your plans to use the bodies of NY children to make a point, but it just wouldn't be truthful.

[cidliz2004]

11. You know what, your hateful response to my comparison

that apparently was based on wrong information is uncalled for and unneeeded.

Saracasm towards a person trying to bring to light and/or emphasize how horrible it is that we are even in Iraq doesn't make any good sense.

There is no question as to the fact that Iraqi children were killed in this war, nor is there a question that a child(ren) were killed on 9 11, the question is how many and where. Even with my mistake the question holds true. The more important point is that thousands of innocent people are being killed in the name of safety, freedom, Democracy.... That is the point and if using or more accurately highlighting the innocent lives tragically being used to make that point is not out of order...but IS essentially the point.

[aquart]

12. Phony manipulation helps no one.

And which of us is really more full of hate, I wonder.

Well, actually, I don't.

[cidliz2004]

16. YOU it is obvious

I merely stated a FACT, more Iraqi children have been killed than children on 9 11. What is wrong with that? It is a fact and it is a sad fact that we are killing ANYBODY in Iraq. Since when is making a statement hateful?

" I'm sorry to thwart your plans to use the bodies of NY children to make a point, but it just wouldn't be truthful."

That statement is hateful. And this statement is hateful:


"REALLY half-witted comparison.

Try: 100,000 innocent civilians for 3,000 innocent civilians. Are we even now?"

I wasn't trying to make anything EVEN? I was SAYING that when a Repub shrugs off all of the death and destruction that we are causing in Iraq we could mention all of the children that we have killed and mention that we didn't lose near as many when Osamma carried his attack out on us on 9/11...maybe they would just shut up when the children are mentioned and maybe they might feel a twinge of guilt - that is what I intended by my post!

[aquart]

17. You were saying?

But, obviously, so zealous and eager as you are, not communicating.

I have no patience with you.

[cidliz2004]

18. You don't have much else either

[theresistance]

13. I thought your post was okay just to show

the comparison between events. Bottom line: I don't think you could justify the Iraq war (or even Afghanistan?) based on 911.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

14. Get over yourself. Either face real facts or find somebody else...

...willing to accept your unsubstantiated blather without question.

Here are the facts:

1. No children were killed in the WTC on 911. None. Nada. Zilch.

2. A few children were passengers on the four jets that were hijacked on 911, and therefore, they were killed when three of the jets struck U. S. buildings, and the fourth plane was either shot down or crashed in a Pennsylvania farmer's field.

3. From the time sanctions were imposed on Iraq following Desert Storm, until they were lifted shortly after our most recent illegal war on Iraq, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children have died because of a lack of basic medicines and medical care. The sanctions prohibited Iraq from importing a wide range of medicines.

4. During the most recent illegal war against Iraq, major population centers have been bombed repeatedly, resulting in the deaths of close to 100,000 civilians, about 50% of them being children.

Do you still want to compare what was done on 911 to what we've done to the Iraqis since Desert Storm?

While we're at it, perhaps you can tell me how much evidence was found linking the hijackers to Al Qaeda and/or Osama Bin Laden? Here's a hint...the FBI has found nothing to date to link the hijackers to Al Qaeda and/or Osama Bin Laden.

And maybe you can tell me why some of the hijackers attended U. S. military schools? Here's another hint for you....foreign nationals attending our military schools must have high-level clearances and are usually members of the military of the foreign national's home country.

Maybe you can also tell me why NONE of the hijackers were from Iraq or Afghanistan, while fifteen were from Saudi Arabia?

And by the way, what happened to all of those WMDs that Iraq was supposed to have? Did we kill all of those Iraqi civilians and their children just for oil?

[cidliz2004]

15. You are missing the point!

I am against the war in Iraq and I have been against the war in Iraq since Bush and his cronies first started talking about it. The American people were SOLD a bill of goods and unfortunately most of them are too dumb to see beyond the LIES that Bush, Cheney, Rumdum, Woffwoff and others told and will still tell. ONE IRAQI LIFE IS TOO MUCH! Whether it be man, woman, child, Moslem or Christian. I have been screaming at the top of my lungs against this war before it was popular and most of the Dems even acknowledged a problem, furthermore I am furious that Gore lost the 2000 election and sick that Kerry lost the 2004 election. I HATE BUSH and his group and they spell disaster for the U.S. Since their Admin. has been in office this country has officially donned on the Black Hat. We no longer are the heroes of yesterday.

My comments about the children were merely ANOTHER point of a MULTITUDE OF POINTS AGAINST the war in Iraq.

EVERY SINGLE LIFE LOST IN IRAQ IS A LIFE TAKEN WITHOUT CAUSE AND DOWNRIGHT CRIMINAL.

Most of this administration has wanted to go into Iraq since 91' and they approached Bush 1 and he said no (for very good reasons, in fact of the 3 reasons he named 2 are very much in play now, they approached Clinton in 98' and he said no. So the "yes" man had to be installed into the WH and GWB was the one. I hope that they all rot in Hell for what they have done.

[Rapcw]

5. They don't value life like us!

life is cheap in the orien... i mean middle east!
:eyes:

[ultraist]

6. Bush pro*lifers* /war supporters

Bush/war supporters speak out:


Bush's "Culture of Life"

[HEyHEY]

10. But you must look at ratios

One US child is equal to 10,000 Iraqi kids. So you see, we're still way ahead.

[aquart]

19. Many of us use DU to hone our arguments. Work out the kinks.

We prefer that to engaging ad homimem attacks on the people trying to help us.

I'm putting you on Ignore.