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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:29 PM
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Didja catch this chilling bit in The Speech?
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And for America, there will be no going back to the era before September the 11th, 2001 — to false comfort in a dangerous world. We have learned that terrorist attacks are not caused by the use of strength — they are invited by the perception of weakness.

http://www.qctimes.com/internal.php?story_id=1017403&l=1&t=Nation+%2F+World&c=26,1017403

WHOA! No more just going along whistling past graveyards for us, oh no. We will be armed, growling, teeth bared. Hello 21st Century (the New American one)

Look at his plans!- we go around using strength, perpetually (?), so no one will think we are weak? :freak:

How about "they are invited by the perseption of THREATS" you NITWIT! And WHO is telling him that it wasn't our PAST usage of strength that brought on initial attacks?

Mucho Karma Negativo, if you ask me.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:34 PM
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1. How about "they are invited by the perseption of THREATS
or invasions of muslim countries, or bring 'em on, or attorney generals saying islam is a bad religion!!! What a dope he is.
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:34 PM
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2. Sad, but true
The only thing he has going for him (besides looting the treasury for the rich) is the common person's perception that he is tough ('Mericans watch too many movies). He needs to keep up that charade to have any support at all among the non-wealthy. Too bad we can't get him out of there before he does more damage. He's a bull terrier in a china shop.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:36 PM
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3. i noticed that too
it sounds like a sci-fi episode where Bush is the dictator leading his people to ruin through false promises of patriatism, valor, and sacrifice.

The moron creates terror in Iraq and now is using that arguement to keep going.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:46 PM
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12. Sci fi, yes
I think it was Begala today that called rummy, Secretary Strangelove.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:36 PM
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4. This guy is a bonehead of upteenth degree.
The word diplomacy does not exist within the bush presidency. You are correct on Karma.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:36 PM
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5. is that why Canada is attacked so often, for not projecting strength?
:shrug:

funny, I could've SWORN OBL said that he attatcked us because of our USE of strength in Iraq the first time, and our SHOW of strength in Saudi Arabia

but what do I know?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:48 PM
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14. Great point
Look at ALL the peaceful countries that don't get attacked, nor do they go looking for trouble.
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maha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:37 PM
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6. We'll make enemies faster than we can shoot 'em.
War without end.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:38 PM
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7. A bunch of macho, but our major weakness, fiscal madness, will strangle
our strengths, sap the life out of our national energy, thwart national synergy.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:42 PM
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8. It's like they have no understanding of basic human psychology
Or maybe it's because the US picks on the weak that Bush thinks that's everyone's motivation.

But he'd be better served to check out his beloved Bible and read the story of David and Goliath. Or does Bush think that's a story about a boy and his dog.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:47 PM
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13. It IS basic psychology
It's like having the societal argument all over again about whether you should beat the "mean" out of a child.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:43 PM
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9. And who looks weak now?
We have learned that terrorist attacks are not caused by the use of strength — they are invited by the perception of weakness.

You look weak you sorry sack of feeble minded shit, begging your "friends" (who you just got through dissing and telling to go to hell) to help you bail your sorry ass out of the Irakmire now that the realization has sunk in that you've bitten off way more than you can chew.



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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:57 PM
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16. He's exposed the limitations of US power.
Clinton understood that it was diplomacy with a strong military option that allowed us to further our interests. Dumb Son and his chickenhawk buddies never understood this....so we really are weaker today, in terms of our economy and our ability to influence world events.

The New American Century? Try The New American 1/2 Decade.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 07:29 PM
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18. Mesopotamia: 3 great empires down...
...and one more to go.

If they were listening to people with expertise -- for example, scholars, historians, weapon inspectors, etc -- rather than religiously insane ideologues -- they might have learned that one of the lessons of empire is that the little gnats always bleed the great beast to death, in the end.

What Bush said last night, essentially, was that it didn't matter how many Americans died, how the USA has to sacrifice its basic needs to bankroll this disaster -- because if they kill a lot of us and we buckle under the pressure of the immense cost, we're letting the terrorists win! Sounds like Viet Nam is small potatoes to His Chimperial Highness -- he's thinking more along the lines of the trench warfare of WWI -- where tens of thousands of people die daily, to achieve nothing but to gratify the egos of the leaders.

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:44 PM
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10. no going back to 45% approval ratings for Bush
oh, wait, never mind.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:46 PM
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11. Wait until oatbreath raises you taxes
wait until he starts the draft
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Joseph Conrad Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:54 PM
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15. Hhahahaha! Bush kills me.
From "We must unite against terror" to "There will be no going back... we must use strength."

Is it just me or does he sound more and more fascist? Soon enough he'll be talking about triumphing against forces of evil and demonstrating the will of the people of the homeland. Oh, wait, he's already said that.

Dipshits who voted for him need to open up a history book. Scuse the language, but I can't help it.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 07:20 PM
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17. I'm reminded of Cuban Missile Crisis
Kennedy was urged by the Joint Chiefs, and Krushchev by his military advisors -- that they MUST take action against the other, or else be thought of as "weak."

Luckily for life on earth, both Kennedy and Krushchev were sane enough to realize that they didn't need to start an atomic war in order to prove they were Macho Men.

Unfortunately -- there are no sane persons in this administration; there is no experts, there is no expertise -- only faith-based militancy -- and these guys think that people will think their dicks are only as big as the military hardware they deploy and the number of people they kill and maim.

But personally -- what I found most disturbing was not only raising the Ghost of Viet Nam -- but even Beirut and Somalia! -- and saying that we will not make the mistake of pulling out of a war again, no matter how much a senseless quagmire bloodbath it is.

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