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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 08:17 AM
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Blogging No on Gonzales
In a stand of Unity the bloggers are joining to air their feelings about the Gonzalez Nomination.

See what unity through growth looks like.

http://dailykos.com/story/2005/1/26/14452/5704

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Read what one of the largest Hispanic civil rights organizations says to a Hispanic who is opposed to Gonzales, it is very appauling.

Sinverguenza is correct!

Finally something caught your attention! I spoke with Lisa Navarette this afternoon needless to say I'm very disappointed with NCLR (National Council of La Raza) decision as well, shared my concerns specially on immigration issues her response NCLR wants permanent legal status for all immigrants.

Went on to say what is needed is someone like Gonzales to LEAD HIM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.. BUSH ? policies blah...blah..blah... I told her it will never happen it never does!

WENT ON TO SAY..That it is a catch twenty-two every time a HISPANIC gets nominated for a position no one is ever happy how can we keep a HISPANIC in office when right away we want them out!

On the abuse issue she suggested for you to contact your Senators and Reps. I assume you have, Lisa, understand our concerns but a decision was made and NCLR will stand firm on the decision.

<snip> (Other Hispanic issues)

So there you have it. Call or email your Sen. and Reps. like you have been doing give Lisa a call its better for you to pick up the phone.

Anyway, I have to go I'll be out and about early in the a.m. to meet with Mr.. Sparks, hopefully he can answer some question that's if we don't get escorted out!!

Sorry, I did not answer sooner full schedule these days.

Hilda


My response
A catch 22, that is very sad. So basicly NCLR will support any Hispanic just because they are Hispanic and it does not matter how much they decide to white wash themselves. Funny how the African-American community can rally against any "Uncle Tom" and yet, our organizations refuse to do the same. No wonder why we are forgotten when people talk about racism in this country. As long as organizations like NCLR continue to kiss ass to the Bush type gringos, they will continue to validate the "Si Senor," negative sterotype. When will this maddness stop?

I know there are some or a lot of progressive people here who probabably feel the same way as the our Congressional Dems about Gonzales and the Hispanic issue when openly voicing your concern and opinion; which are feelings of concern about Gonzales and not wanting to be attacked by some Hispanics. That is why I am writing this post.

I would like to assure you:
THIS NOT A HISPANIC ISSUE BUT A HUMAN ISSUE.
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 08:24 AM
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1. Asking Democrats To Stand Up
Asking Democrats To Stand Up To The Bush Administration on Torture

"Democrats ought to die on this hill," Alan Colmes said last night on his radio show, meaning that Democrats should wage an all out war on the nominations of Alberto Gonzales and Condoleezza Rice. He read some very disturbing excerpts from a new article in Knight Ridder newspapers stating that Gonzales now asserts that "There's a legal rationale for harsh treatment of foreign prisoners by U.S. forces" and that "the Convention Against Torture treaty, as ratified by the Senate, doesn't prohibit the use of 'cruel, inhuman or degrading' tactics on non-U.S. citizens who are captured abroad, in Iraq or elsewhere."

The Knight Ridder article also states:
Gonzales described recent reports of prisoner abuse as "shocking and deeply troubling." But he refused to answer questions from senators about whether interrogation tactics witnessed by FBI agents were unlawful. He warned that any public discussion about interrogation tactics would help al-Qaida terrorists by giving them "a road map" of what to expect when captured. He also said the administration was conducting a comprehensive legal review of all practices and that the Justice Department, so far, had concluded that the tactics were lawful.

Colmes also played some clips of Ted Kennedy and Barbara Boxer speaking on the floor of the Senate yesterday against the Rice nomination. In no time, a caller named Sandy who said she was a long-time military wife with a son in Iraq was on the line complaining that speaking out against the war was helping the terrorists and that Boxer and Kennedy were only grandstanding.

"Isn't it our job to ask tough questions of whoever's in power?" Colmes asked. Apparently, she didn't think so. Shortly thereafter, she hung up on him.

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/01/26/asking_democrats_to_stand_up_to_the_bush_administration_on_torture.php
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 08:34 AM
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2. So this is what freedom and liberty tastes like...(A UK view)
My, my... what a jolly day. Would anyone mind if I just posted a string of articles and then just held my heads in my hands and wept...?
http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2005/01/so_this_is_what.asp

http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=17350&c=206">ACLU - Newly Released Investigative Files Provide Further Evidence Soldiers Not Held Accountable for Abuse Investigative files released today by the American Civil Liberties Union suggest that the Army failed to aggressively investigate allegations of detainee abuse. Some of the investigations concern serious allegations of torture including electric shocks, forced sodomy and severe physical beatings. "Government investigations into allegations of torture and abuse have been woefully inadequate," said ACLU Executive Director Anthony D. Romero. "Some of the investigations have basically whitewashed the torture and abuse. The documents that the ACLU has obtained tell a damning story of widespread torture reaching well beyond the walls of Abu Ghraib."

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=604282">Independent - US and UK 'ignore torture by Iraqi police': Iraqi security forces have been committing widespread torture and other human rights abuses while US and British authorities turn a blind eye, according to a report. The accusation that police and soldiers, trained by the occupying powers, are routinely mistreating detainees, including children, is made by the pressure group Human Rights Watch. In a report called The New Iraq - Torture and Ill-treatment of Detainees in Iraqi Custody, it has catalogued malpractice by security forces ranging from arbitrary arrest and severe beatings to extortion. It says the interim government of Iyad Allawi had flouted the principles for which the overthrow of Saddam Hussein was justified.

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 08:52 AM
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3. I e-mailed both Snowe and Collins about him and Rice.
I just think they are two bad people to put in and every one knows it.
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:24 AM
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4. I wonder how many people...
did call or send an email.
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:27 AM
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5. My reason against Gonzales
Organizations like NCLR are just another mouth piece for what ever political party that is in the White House. This is sad, I know. NCLR's mission is a global and a hope-and-pray Hispanic mission; meaning, they will support anybody who is Hispanic no matter if there are issues regarding their background. Trust me, this will not help our (Hispanic) cause. There are other Hispanic organizations who will disagree, but who will not be covered by the MSM. These National organizations would be the League of Latin American Citizens (LULAC) the oldest civil rights organization, the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund (MALDEF), the Mexican American Political Organization (MAPO), and state and local Hispanic organizations.

So if you have a personal blog feel free to use my information and me as a source. Or if you want, I will be willing to post them up myself. Just PM me to let me know. This issue is very important me because I and others refuse to be lumped together with other Hispanic (Coconuts) who support Bush and Gonzales.
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