Neo-Con Torture Rhetoric Alarmingly Mirrors Nazi Counterparts

[kuozzman]

This so-called ill treatment and torture in detention centers, stories of which were spread everywhere among the people, and later by the prisoners who were freed… were not, as some assumed, inflicted methodically, but were excesses committed by individual prison guards, their deputies, and men who laid violent hands on the detainees.

Can anyone tell me who said that? Was it:

A) George W. Bush
B) John Ashcroft
C) Donald Rumsfeld
D) Someone else

If you answered “someone else", you’d be right. It was Rudolf Hoess, SS Kommandant of the infamous Auschwitz death camp where over 2.5 million people were murdered.

Conservatives, who love to call Liberals whiny, get whiny as hell when the Bush administration is compared to Nazi Germany, or to fascism in general. Guess what, though? The comparisons are beginning to come through more and more.

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/january2005/260105alarminglymirrors.htm

[Gman]

1. Everyone's defense at Nuremburg

either they were told to do it or they had nothing to do with what someone else did.

I wonder what name the historic trials of Bush, Rumsfeld, Rice and others will be referred to as.

[yardwork]

2. Very important! Thank you for posting this.

If we can't get people to listen, the least we can do is document the abuses and the lies that the U.S. government is inflicting on us and the world.

Eventually the truth will be accepted. For now, even though we sometimes feel like voices in the wilderness, it's our job to document this.

Do you know what the gate leading into Auschwitz said: "Freedom through Work." The current White House could have said that - probably has.

[SCantiGOP]

3. the torture was easy to predict

As soon as Bush and Rumsfeld starting laying out before the invasion that the Geneva Conventions would not able to "terrorists" you could see this coming. We had spent 65 years since the end of WW II trying to pull the world into agreement that pre-emptive was illegal; that the United Nations was the proper way to settle international disputes, and that the torture and tactics of the Nazis would never again be tolerated. It didn't take Bush long to destroy all of these concepts and make us the most feared and hated nation on earth.

[sui generis]

4. speaking of prosecution for war crimes

whatever happened to Rumfilled and his trip to Germany? Did Germany ever issue any further statements?

[RBHam]

5. If it talks like a Nazi and Goosesteps like a Nazi...

Y'know...

[theresistance]

6. Good perspective

I've also said before that if torture is okay now to get information and to stop attacks etc, then it must have been okay for the Gestapo in WW2, say to get information from French resistance and to stop attacks to ensure "security" for German troops (how many times do you hear this in relation to Afghanistan and Iraq?). I just don't see how they can be justifying torture now.

[bpilgrim]

7. the imperial japanese of WWII used the term ILLEGAL COMBATANTS

to justify their actions in ASIA... remember NANKING?
they didn't destroy the whole city like we did to faluja...

stalingrad taught the germans a very hard lesson though when they did the same.

peace