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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:05 AM
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Wedge Alert: Race card threat by RW.
Let's not have another Civil Unions wedge folks...

EVENT: RWers are threatening to play race card on Condi-lie-za
and Heinrich Gonzales nominations against the brave Senators
who represented us in the confirmations. It's been expected since
the nominations were announced.

ACTION: Take 4 people aside today and explain the vote had
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with either their ethnic origin or
gender. Have each of them do the same.

Fight on!

Thanks for your attention.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:06 AM
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1. I think this is past threatened. They have played the race card.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:09 AM
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2. Yep...
But, lets not let it get any further than it has.
It's been slowly picking up steam in the CRM.


Okay?

=)

Peace.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:13 AM
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3. Agreed!
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:35 AM
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4. Yep, already begun. Check this thread.
I tried to make that point. Some DUers had it out in a very unneccesary way.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1532759
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:06 AM
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9. Ouch!
Hey, Izzy... What can I say?

You tried and that's what counts.

Take a bow my friend... And for crying out loud people
lets STOP EATING OUR OWN!

Unless of course you like it.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:43 AM
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16. Freepers already have a couple of threads going.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:44 AM
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17. Their "Noise Machine" is running...
Is ours? ;)
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:42 AM
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5. Yes, Oral Hatchet was whining about Dems opposing a Hispanic
nominee this morning - as if that were the reason and his blessing on torture had nothing to do with it.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:45 AM
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6. I really don't think...
... this is going to work for them. They've played the racism card so many times - and no black or hispanic whose been paying attention thinks the pukes give a rats ass about them.

Ever heard of the "Southern Strategy"?
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:01 AM
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7. Lets hope so!
A little insurance never hurts. ;)

Besides... It gets people out of the house.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:05 AM
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8. It does work.
Because they do it over and over again, and it goes into the media echo chamber.

Our president has his liberal jokes setup by the presscorp.

Look what thier propaganda has done to reality, why do you think they cant confuse minority communities? Almost everyone who voted for Bush voted against thier interests, whats to stop them from getting more people to buy into thier lies, they are only going to get better at it if we dont stop them.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:07 AM
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11. Very Good K-W!
Keep those thoughts flowing... It's how we'll win!

Fight on!

=)
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:07 AM
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10. We've already gotten the message.....
Several threads posted explaining why we should be "concerned."

Folks keep DU posted on the latest Right Wing Talking Points. No need to watch Fox or listen to Rush.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:10 AM
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12. Then *do* something about it.
What I'm advocating is since we're hearing their talking
points lets spread some of our own.

The CRM will *never* portray our side of the story.

We've been whining because nobody speaks for us...
Well guess what! A dozen Senators *have*!

By golly, I'm not going to let them go down without a fight.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:31 AM
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13. Kick...
*sigh*

This thread sank down below "Fox weathermen have meltdown."

I'm beginning to see "The POWER of the Dark Side." =/

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:37 AM
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14. They will play any card that results in promoting/defending their agenda
They have only the sheep to fool and now the sheep have become emboldened to carry out the deeds and get the blame.... The Brown shirts live on.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:39 AM
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15. Hear Hear...
Thanks for the input Opihimoimoi (I'd love to hear you
pronounce that! =) )

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:59 AM
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19. OH Pee Hee moy moy
Come, we go eat, drink, laugh, smile, sing, dance....forget the doom and gloom pubs...they are depressing.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:24 AM
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20. Cool thanks! =)
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:56 AM
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18. I tried to explain this to people yesterday and they beat me up...
Being overly aggressive and attacking condiliesa is one thing. Attacking Andrew Young and other Black Elder Statesmen is another.

We fell into their trap. Even Black scholars and experts are starting to say the same thing I said. The Rethugs played the card and we fell for it.
I agree with the poster and thank them for their post.

I like the fact that Boxer, Kerry, Byrd, Dayton, and others spoke for me. They are the leaders in this fight. Let them take the hit. But when rank and file Liberals and Democrats including progressives and aggressive progressives like those here @ DU attack and call Andrew Young a sellout and a media whore I have to say wait a min. IS this the face you want to present to Black America. Watch out. Cuz if we get the whiff that this is where the Democratic party is headed under your direction then we can't play that.

Y'all may be able to do that to your elders but Black folk don't do that even when we disagree. We respectfully disagree.

So for Y'all who fell for it. Hope you like what ya get in return.

White Liberals say they are diverse but I've yet to see anyone here try to take the time to try and understand African Americans beyond what they think they already know. There seems to be an attitude of sit over there Mr Black Man and Mrs. Black Woman I know what's good for you. Well, Homey don't play dat people! Take time to listen and WISE UP and understand before shootin off your mouth where Beloved Black Leaders are concerned.

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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:28 AM
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22. Excellent Post!
I knew I could count on you xultar. =)

Thanks for taking the time to write such a complete response. =)

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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:27 AM
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21. The message is simple.
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 11:37 AM by Opposite Reaction
"We judge the nominees not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Once said, the content of their character is brought to the fore.

If the race card is played again, it is easily turned around, and then the truth, that we judged the nominees not on the color of their skin but on the content of their character is reiterated. One can then recite the character issues. When the argument comes to the character of the nominees, and their records, the right loses.

Now, to be sure, people have used the RW race card ploy on this forum. It is seen in many threads. Please, avoid the trap. Stick to the truth. We are liberals. We judge these nominees not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. And in doing so we find the nominees to be unfit for the appointments.

Stick to the truth. Do not be sucked in to the personal emotional and political diversions.


edit: spelling
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:32 AM
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23. "We judge the nominees not by the color of their skin but by the content."
"of their character."

A simple and effective message O.R.

=)
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