There is lots of money for Social Security AND Health Care for EVERYBODY

[cidliz2004]

IF and I do mean IF the politicians would stop taking money from the Social Security Fund and Stealing money from our taxes! Don't you agree? Why is NO ONE addressing the fact that OUR GOVERNMENT has taken the money from Social Security and used it for OTHER THINGS!

They have stolen from us and we/somebody should be able to say it to the American people.

[papau]

1. There will be about 6 trillion of over-payments in 2018 - the point Bush

says SS is bankrupt because he does not want to start to pay funds back to SS by redeeming less than 100 billion of Bond in that year for the cash needed to add to the payroll tax revenue so as to pay 100% of benefits.

I am sure "full faith and credit of the United States" means something to Bush - but perhaps only with regard to bonds sold to Japan and China..

[Cleita]

2. Of course there is. This is one of the BushCo BIG LIES

to scare, propagandize and justify his looting of old people's pensions.

[cidliz2004]

3. Why isn't anybody really hammering away on this though?

Why is Bushco allowed to talk about a crisis that doesn't exist and his cronies continue to take money out of our funds? Why doesn't somebody stand up and make some noise about this?

If the Dems want to make any inroads, this would the way to do it. It would be radical...I mean telling the truth and all, but it would hit EVERYBODY where they live.

[Cleita]

7. Haven't our Dems disappointed us in every way up until now?

Why should this be any different? Except for a few voices in the wilderness like Senators Boxer, Byrd, and Kennedy, they have rubber stamped everything this administration has done in the name of Jeebus and non-existant freedoms.

[TheFarseer]

4. The republican response goes like this:

Yeah, that's the problem, politicans can't keep their hands off the money. So why don't we set up private accounts so the government can't touch it. It's YOUR money and only you can touch it. Again, not my thoughts, just what I've heard from a couple repug talking heads.

[cidliz2004]

5. So, the response would be.... Stock Markets CRASH and if it does

crash with YOUR money in it who will you turn to when you need funds in your old age?

After 9/11 how many people lost money on the stock market, AGAIN why doesn't anybody bring that up?

Besides wouldn't it be easier to just hold the Government accountable for stealing our money?

[Warpy]

6. They've robbed it to cover the true cost of tax cuts to the rich

It's the real reason Reagan raised the rates SIX TIMES on the poorest workers. It's cost shifting of the worst possible kind.

There's plenty of money for everything, if we only have the will to put the fucking Pentagon on a diet and begin taxing the rich and the corporate.

Neither party has the wits or the balls to do it.

[yorgatron]

8. "put the fucking Pentagon on a diet"

it's like you're reading my mind ...

[Colorado Blue]

9. We MUST end these tax cuts and

that includes "corporate welfare" and endless bailouts to companies that can't cut it.

Funny how they don't want to help PEOPLE but CORPORATIONS get all the aid they want. PEOPLE are supposed to Rise To The Top By Their Own Bootstraps (and if they can't cut it, too bad) whereas corporations get government aid to the tune of BILLIONS?

It SUCKS.

And they wonder why the US of A is becoming stagnant and our creativity is lagging.

[Egalitariat]

10. The Gov't taking money from Social Security is a good thing

because they replace that money with Treasuries that earn interest. If the government didn't take money from Social Security, then it would just sit there in an unproductive manner.

We all learned in Kindergarten that stashing money in your mattress is stupid when there are opportunities for that same money to earn compounded interest.

I don't know why people complain about this.

[cidliz2004]

11. Excuse me the SPENT it, they didn't INVEST it!

[Yupster]

13. It's not sitting anywhere earning interest

LOL

It's been spent. It's gone. Vanished. It's a dead parrot.

Those bonds will never be redeemed. There's no intention of ever repaying them.

It's like if you loaned your brother-in-law $ 10,000 and he bet it on black in Vegas. Thirty years later you're still compounding the interest saying oh boy I can't wait until he pays me the $ 75,000 he owes me.

[rowire]

12. Don't Panic

Social Security is fine. The dire projections are all based on an assumption that the economy will only grow at a 1-2% rate. That is historically unrealistic. If the economy grows at its historical rate (which is only in doubt if America doesn't wake up and stop electing primates) then we will all be fine. Relax.