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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:44 PM
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Big Brother is following you, Goodbye privacy
US to slap tourists with RFID
January 26 2005
by Jo Best
http://management.silicon.com/government/0,39024677,39127374,00.htm

Passport? Check. Insurance? Check. RFID chip?

The US Department of Homeland Security has decided to trial RFID tags in an effort to make sure only the right sort of people get across US borders.

The controversial US-VISIT scheme for those visiting the US from abroad already fingerprints holidaymakers on their way into the country and is now adding RFID to the mix in order to improve border management, the department said.

The trials will start at a "simulated port" in the spring and will then be extended to Nogales East and Nogales West in Arizona; Alexandria Bay in New York; and Pacific Highway and Peace Arch in Washington by the end of July.

<snip>

The US government has already shown a marked fondness for the tagging technology. The US Department of Defense mandated its suppliers to use the technology, while the Food and Drug Administration is encouraging the pharmaceutical industry to use the chips in an attempt to beat counterfeiters.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:46 PM
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1. Say bye bye to the tourism industry in the new Jesusland
who the hell wants to take a vacation so they can be tagged like cattle?

Ah, yes... this must be Bush's new Vision of Freedom. :eyes:

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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:50 PM
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4. MOOOOO!!!!
Round them up,
Move them out,
Rawhide!

Must be the rancher in him. :puke:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:51 PM
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6. Do you know if we can get one?? I don't want to be left out you know
I mean, I want my freedomchip too. Hey... isn't that a great name for these RFID thingies???

You know... like freedomfries, only it's freedomchips.... I do so like it. I wonder if shrub would like it... then again, who gives a shit about what he likes.

The hate us for our greedom... 4mor
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:57 PM
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8. Sure, the next time you go to CVS or Walgreens
A number of major drug companies are studying how RFID technology, billed as a next-generation bar code, can help them detect counterfeit drugs and reduce the costs of product recalls. Among them are Johnson & Johnson, Pfizer and Eli Lilly.


So, which pill would you like to take, the Red or the Blue?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:01 PM
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10. Methinks ChimpChip would also be a good name...
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:02 PM
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11. Good one there....
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:49 PM
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2. There's a way to link these, but I don't know how.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:50 PM
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3. Travel get tag. Refuse to travel your trapped in your own country. USSR
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:50 PM
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5. US citizens, too
http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,65412,00.html
"New U.S. passports will soon be read remotely at borders around the world, thanks to embedded chips that will broadcast on command an individual's name, address and digital photo to a computerized reader."
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:56 PM
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7. yeah, that wouldn't be hard to hack now would it?
what a bunch of assclowns!

Now I feel bad for getting my dog a chip.
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:01 PM
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9. I wonder what your dog is thinking....
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 09:01 PM by ChicanoPwr
Maybe it would be:
Pay back is a bitch! LOL :silly:

I was thinking about getting one for mine, since I live in a apartment, I thought it would be a waste of my money. Now, it is a privacy thing.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:00 PM
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16. Actually, since I adopted him from an animal rescue
he had it when I got him. They do that automatically before adopting them out. That and cutting his balls off.

That's what they're going for next for you fellas by the way.
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:29 PM
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17. I didn't know they were tagging dogs now
I got mine from the from the animal resuce too, they didn't give her a chip but they did spayed for population control.

Yeah, I know they plan to cut off our balls. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they are planning population control.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:15 PM
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12. what if you just ran over your passport with a car??
Would that destroy the chip? Or maybe drop it in water and then dry it out??
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:42 PM
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19. Yep!
I have to update my passport if Sapph and I want our Christmas 2005 plans to go ahead.

Every country that has a visa waiver program with the United States has been told basically if they want for the waiver program to remain open to them, then they have to do this.

Mind you, it doesn't matter that my passport won't expire until December 2009.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:24 PM
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13. Or maybe "accidentally" stuck it
in a microwave oven for an hour????


Could so happen.
My house is a very very very fine house!

If I couldn't leave "The Land of the Free" for some Mexican Therapy, I would be very sad!:(
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:47 PM
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14. I just wonder how many DUers
are on the flight list anyway. Somehow, the neo-cons want us to be prisoners of our own country.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:38 PM
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not a bad idea
In the article about rfids in US passports, someone from the ACLU said, "Americans in the know will be wrapping their passports in aluminum foil" to keep the passport from being read remotely. Yet another use for tinfoil.
But, I like your idea about the microwave better. Wonder if that would zap it.
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Raised_In_The_Wild Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:54 PM
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15. these people are fuckers. i am telling you, we will never make it
through four more years of tyranny, fascism, torture and lies. We have to stop paying taxes now. That's what these fuckers live on, our taxes. We can shut them down if we all simultaneously claim we are exempt from taxes because our votes weren't counted. Taxation without representation is unconstitutional. How about a class action suit of all American taxpayers to the Impeachable Supremes? And start lobbying for Impeaching The Son of a Bush now!
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:38 PM
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18. There is some good news: There is an RFID Tag Blocker.
RSA Security has the answer.

The Blocker Tag: Selective Blocking of RFID Tags for Consumer Privacy
http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/node.asp?id=2060

Abstract: The RSA® Blocker Tag is an invention of RSA Laboratories scientists in conjunction with Prof. Ronald Rivest. Consumers will almost certainly wish to possess live RFID tags in many of their belongings -- for "smart" appliances, prescription refills, automated payment, store returns, and so forth. At the same time, they do not want their RFID tags to be scanned indiscriminately. The RSA® Blocker Tag is itself a RFID tag -- in size and cost much like a conventional RFID tag. The RSA® Blocker Tag, however, helps consumers to manage their live RFID tags in a privacy-protecting manner.

One may think of a the RSA® Blocker Tag as "spamming" any reader that attempts to scan tags without the right authorization. (The RSA® Blocker Tag manipulates the reading protocol with the aim of making the reader think that RFID tags representing all possible serial numbers are present.) When a Blocker is in proximity to ordinary RFID tags, they benefit from its shielding behavior; when the Blocker tag is removed, the ordinary RFID tags may be used normally.

Thanks to their selective nature, RSA® Blocker Tags are designed not to interfere with the normal operation of RFID systems in retail environments. They help prevent unwanted scanning of purchased items, but do not affect the scanning of shop inventories. Thus RSA® Blocker Tags are designed not to be usable, for example, to circumvent theft-control systems or mount denial-of-service attacks -- only to protect the privacy of law-abiding consumers.
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talk about worlds within worlds
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