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Mon Sep-08-03 11:10 PM
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If you support Clark bump this post. |
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I am curious as to how many people support Clark. I know polls have been done. I also see lots of Clark supporters. But I am curious as to WHO they are and what their names are. Plus, keeping Clark at the top of this list will give him good name recognition and keep him in the minds of people that are thinking about supporting him.
I have not 100% made up my mind to support Clark. But I like him better than most the other candidates. My favorites are Clark, Kerry, and Edwards. But I think Edwards has little chance and Kerry can't beat Dean. So Clark is rising to one of my favorites. The responses to this post will let me know that Clark is the one.
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:16 PM
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3. Of course I support Clark |
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He's qualified, smart, has a good platform, and has done well in his television appearences. What's more - he's electable. What's not to like?
Clark in '04!
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:17 PM
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--and I support Clark. I'm sure that won't be a lot of help when elections come around, but at least its proof that Clark has at least some international support. And I'm certain that there are many informed individuals around the world that feel the same way.
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:17 PM
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I hope you take his stands on the issues and your gut feelings into account too, not just the fickle notice of the current crop of posters. Remember also lots of Clark folks are still returning from and working on points from the Clark meetups tonight and may not be present. My meetups were at 7 and 110 minutes drive.
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:29 PM
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13. To me it is a balance |
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The person I support a is balance between, Personality, Capability, Issues, and Electability. The one with the right mix is the one I support.
On issues, Sharpton is the one I like. On Capability it is Graham. On Personality it Edwards. On Electability is Kerry. I think Clark is a good blend of the four. He has just enough experience, a good personality, and is liberal enough for me to support.
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:40 PM
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22. I just got off of a yahoo board for Clark |
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And lots of folks are still at meetups, so you are not going to get a full showing tonight I think. But thanks for your consideration Coffee, and good luck to you and whichever candidate you choose. If Bush goes, we all win.
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:43 PM
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23. If most are in meet-ups |
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then I think they will do very well when they get back. They seem to be doing fine now.
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Wed Sep-10-03 06:10 PM
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73. Can I borrow your crystal ball |
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I want to see how electable Dean is. Also, the other candidates while I am at it.
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:18 PM
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bbut I will support whoever the Dem candidate is in 2004. Clark is my favorite almost candidate.
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:54 PM
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I am just curious who else you support?
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:19 PM
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8. There's a lot of ambivalence toward Clark |
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Because he hasn't participated in any debates, there's some doubts about his position on the issues. He's electable, likeable, with a tremendous grasp of foreign policy issues. He's pro-choice, but has said he is not sure about gay marriage. He will have trouble energizing the hard left if he wins the nomination, unless he can pull ahead in polls early and excite everyone about unseating Bush; but if there is doubt, Greens may hurt him in close states.
He and Dean are the most electable, in my opinion. Put them together, and Bush is in serious trouble.
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:37 PM
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18. Do you think Dean and Clark will get along |
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Or will they be at each other's throats to get the nomination?
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Tue Sep-09-03 12:10 AM
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28. They have both said that they respect and like |
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each other. I have heard that they get along very well. They will not be pulling LIEbermans and stabbing each others backs.
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Tue Sep-09-03 12:25 AM
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31. I would expect that of Clark |
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Dean I don't know what he would do if he started to lose to Clark. Surely you have to believe that Clark would steal some media attention from Dean.
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no more than Kerry steals from Edwards steals from Moseley-Braun steals from Lieberman steals Sharpton......... etc. One candidate does not "steal" from another or "hurt" another other than by direct and unfair or ugly attacks. Clark, not that kinda guy.
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Not many people get to be President. Some people REALLY want to be president. I think Dean is one of those people. Of course they many not directly attack each other. But a debate is a debate. I do think that Clark will become the new media flavor instead of Dean when he announces his bid to run.
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But haven't made up my mind yet. I'd like to see him in a few debates and on the campaign trail before I commit.
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:27 PM
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I support Clark 100% and I have no doubt he would make a great President. He has what it takes. I'll be 18 in time for the election and I really hope I'll get to cast my first ever vote for him.
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:31 PM
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14. Good for you Alabama Dem |
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:33 PM
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16. A young person for Clark |
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That is a good sign. Most the people I have seen support him are fairly older. Good to hear he crosses age groups too.
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:31 PM
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15. As many votes as I can influence. |
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Welcome to DU, AlabamaDem!
Victory! :toast:
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:37 PM
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Hi, mzpip! Nice talking to you at the meetup.
I'm past the point of supporting Clark "because he can win." My rosy scenario has his election ushering in a national political alignment, in favor of the good guys.
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:38 PM
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And I just got back from a meet up where a bunch of great people are so inspired by Clark - he really gets it. :kick:
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Mon Sep-08-03 11:40 PM
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21. why, thank you TacticalPeak. |
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Ya'll (as a transplanted northerner, I love saying that) are very friendly around here.
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If he runs, I'm there. If he doesn't run, I'll be back in the "undecided" column.
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I think Clark is great, and he'll make a fine VP for President Dean. I don't want to see Dean's huge campaign infrastructure get disrupted, so I don't really support Clark for President.
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Tue Sep-09-03 12:06 AM
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26. Two ways of looking at it. |
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You can look at it in the light that if Dean cannot beat Clark he cannot beat Bush. Or you can look at it as though if Clark can beat Dean than he more likely to beat Bush.
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:kick: oh yeah, the term on DU is kick, not bump.
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I support him as a great former NATO Commander/CNN Analyst. He hasn't asked me to consider supporting him in any other way.
I have a tough enough time deciding between the NINE who HAVE asked for support without making it harder by including anybody I might WISH were running.
The time is drawing nigh when we must dance with the ones who will dance, and stop begging those who hide coyly behind their fans fluttering their eyelashes at us. Doesn't anyone remember the long and tortuous deliberations of Mario Cuomo in '84 and '88 and '92? No matter how often he hinted that he MIGHT come riding to the Party's rescue, he never did. If Clinton had lost, we would have been swooning at Mario's feet in '96, too. We might be waiting yet to draft him, yet in vain once more.
If General Clark wishes to enter the race, I welcome him and will give his proposals and positions full and open consideration. I am swiftly growing tired of hearing about the decision process, though. If he can't make up his mind whether or not to run, I can't make up my mind to support him!
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:02 AM
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36. I think it is masterfully done the way he builds the suspense. |
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If it is done on purpose. Otherwise, he just likes toying with people. I think Cuomo was a different story. In 1991 it was considered that Bush can't be defeated. Nobody is saying this Bush cannot be defeated.
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Tue Sep-09-03 12:30 AM
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32. Look forward to his declaration |
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If it turns out he is who I think he is at this time, he would be my first choice now. Then Kerry.
There is still lots of time though.
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Tue Sep-09-03 12:35 AM
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33. Soon as he declares... |
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35. DO you think he will? |
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I have never seen anyone so masterfully build suspense over the declaration of running for President.
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37. Look at all the buzz and publicity it's generating |
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Word is he is in part following the advice of a certain other well known Rhodes Scholar from Little Rock who joined the race late.
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54. Be sure to read this editorial in the Post... |
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38. after that brilliant showing on 'real time'.... |
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40. Clark is the one for me. |
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He is smart, liberal, gutsy and will command some respect. I love Dean (for the same reasons) but he is abrasive (to me) and stiff and arrogant. Clark hits all the right notes. When asked, for instance, if this is the right time for a president from the military, he said he believes in a civilian government. It's a time for leadership. When asked if he is a liberal he said of course. Our government is based on the principles of the age of reason and the enlightenment (not religion!).
At our meet up today we had college students and Zen masters and everything in between.
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41. He is good with the answers |
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He seems to know how to twist the question around completely to his favor and tell people what they want to hear. I do think he is being honest though when he speaks.
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42. I'm for Dean first now but liking Clark more and more. |
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Looking forward to his declaration and then maybe i'll move away from Dean and support Clark all the way.
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Bumping is for freepers.
And I'm for Clark!
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47. Bush destroys jobs he doen't create them. |
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46. I'm excited about Clark's possible candidacy! |
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48. Although Clark is my first choice, |
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I can't throw much support behind someone who doesn't know if he wants to run. Clark needs to announce his candidacy immediately. Until he announces, he comes across as dishonest because anyone who has been paying attention knows he has every intention of running.
I think he's weakened his chances of winning the party's nomination by waiting this long, and his best shot at the White House may be as VP.
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49. I was thinking the same thing but |
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when you really think about it, it seems rather intelligent and wise to cause suspense about your announcing. Kerry and Dean didn't create half as much suspense. We knew long before and only helped their campaigns a bit. I mean Clark got more press coverage about announcing he was Democrat than Kucinich got for announcing he was running for President. That takes skill in my opinion.
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if he would actually announce his candidacy! Sheesh....nothing like taking your time to make a decision!
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I starting to think Clark does have a lot of support. I think if he declares he will very well if not win.
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It is hard to believe it is the same guy.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:14 AM
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58. bumpity bump bump bump n/t |
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59. Bumpity Bump Bump Bump |
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Count me in!!! Combination of admiration for his accomplishments, what's he's said so far re: Bush/Iraq, stance on the policies he's mentioned, my horse sense, my gut instinct, and......his looks.
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I will do everything I can to make it possible once he announces
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62. It's either Clark, Kucinich, or Dean |
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Kucinich, as much as I like the guy, has no chance of winning, so that means it's a tossup between Clark or Dean.
I'll support whoever gets the nomination...
so I guess that qualifies for a sexy :kick:
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66. Which do you think is more qualified |
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I would say under normal circumstances that Dean would be. But Bush has really messed things up overseas. So for this, I think Clark would be.
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Tue Sep-09-03 09:27 AM
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63. Bumping cuz I support whoever gets the nod |
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and Wesley still looks good at this point.
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I love Dean and his comment at the debates about everyone wanting to Americans, but I really think Clark is the perfect man for the job and will restore true pride to America.
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IF he runs. till then i'm pretty sure i'm a sharpette. i felt my heart breaking last night when clark sounded too much like he was giving us the kiss-off - don't like broken hearts if they can be avoided :hangover:
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69. I support Clark and hope he will announce sooner than Sept 19. |
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If he decides against running, I'll support either Dean or Kerry but will definitely vote for whoever the nominee is against Whistleass!
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75. I've heard rumors of Announcement parties scheduled |
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for the 19th and maybe a big one in Little Rock on the 20th. I think he'll announce in a press confrence before the speech on the 19th. Just my opinion.
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76. He doen't seem to be on |
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....tv or radio today. Actually, it's seems very strange after the blitz. If he says "yes" then we will realize that he has been running for months now. If he should say "no" why the big wait to say "no."
Anyway, it is very quiet. My husband said there's gonna be a new General Clark cable station. Cracked me up.
Oh, and thanks for the WaPo article whoever posted up thread, good to see the thinking behind a possible run. Actually, he's emphasis on restoring Constitutional Legitamacy, accountability in government, and broadening the issues past the smoke and mirrors are what put him at the top of my list. But more and more, I am ready to beg him to run and straighten out the fucking foreign policy mess we are in. Or better yet, keep bush down on the pig farm and move in today...tomorrow may be too late.
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Wed Sep-10-03 06:09 PM
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72. this is a strong maybe kick |
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Supposedly Clark is an economic progressive, and if he is, that fact along with his socially liberal views, and the fact he could beat Bush so easily, might very well get my vote.
I've been part of the unofficial internet "Draft Clark" since the idea was first floated around almost a year ago. But if Clark is a pro-NAFTA, pro-corporate whore, forget it.
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74. I like Clark because he can accomplish two important things: |
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1) he can beat Bush.
2) he can rid us of Howard Dean who is a Democratic National Disaster just waiting to happen in Nov. of '04.
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He's our best hope and, IMO, the best canidate to mend our dismal foreign relations record under the Bush Junta.
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79. If he throws his hat into the ring (and I think he will)... |
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I will give him a good look as a Democratic candidate. He's so *perfect* that it's hard to get one's hopes up!!!
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Wed Sep-10-03 06:56 PM
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80. General Clark vs. AWOL George? |
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In order to win the 2004 election, Democrats must draw a large number of independent voters. Democratic candidates who pass the “liberal sensitivities” test are written off by most independent voters as being too wimpy. As a person from a modest background, a West Point honors graduate, decorated veteran, Rhodes Scholar, former NATO commander, etc., Wesley Clark makes a really impressive candidate — especially compared to AWOL George, his C average, and Daddy's friends.
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I agree with pretty much everything you just said there.
The distinction between Wesley Clark, a regular middle class American that did quite well for himself through hard work and intelligence, and Bush, the incompetent trust funded deserter, will resonate with the voters left, right and center. If Clark does it right with a solid progressive economic message, he can win back the votes of the white working class and the enlisted military, which will put the Democratic party back in the majority for another generation.
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Wed Sep-10-03 07:19 PM
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85. I am not commited to a candidate at this time |
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I am very interested in Clark and thinks he stands a chance if/when he decides to jump in. I am leaning with Dean and Kerry at this time, but that could change if Clark jumps in.
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Wed Sep-10-03 07:25 PM
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My mind is not made up. However, I am interested in Clark.
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Wed Sep-10-03 07:58 PM
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89. Wesley Clark is in my opinion, |
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is the best choice for the future of America.He brings the debate to a new level.When he speaks he connects to his listeners.You don't get overwhelmed by his answers to questions.They are direct with a comprehensive explination.The character of Gen.Clark is very very admriable.He is a Democrat not by choice but by conviction.That's what I am.He belives like I do that America is at a crucial turning point in history.The stakes of this election could not be any higher.The last persidential election was about sustianing peace and prosperity and expanding it,along with each candidates agenda of promoting and protecting each others political bases social values.Gore and Bush passions were direct oppisites,Bush's passion was to beef up the energy industry,Gore's was the enviornment.With the prosperity of the 90's the energy industry won out.Without a doubt the majority of the problems we are facing today are the result of this.Now we are at the crossroads, potentially the crossroads of the very democracy it self.The 2002 elections gave Democrats and Liberals along with many independants very little incentive to vote.This resulted in republicans expanding their majorities in both the house and seneate.It also was a referendum of Bush's presidency.With Democrats seeing their candidates looking like closet republicans,they just stayed home therfore indirectly helping republicans.Now it's a new year and a new election,and take the Iraq war out of the equation ,out of the debate.Bush's economic ,environmental,social,media,health care,policies are threating American life as we all know it.Throw in Iraq and the threat is doubled.This brings me back to Clark.His priorty in his presidency will be to restore and sustian democracy and freedom.Without these why fight or win the war on terror.This battle must be fought at home through objective debate and compromise.This has not happened for 3 years.It must change.America must unite agian.Wesley Clark in my opinion can bridge the gap that Bush has created domesticly and internationally. Also the threat of terror is real Clark's military experience wil be a definite plus in dealing with this.Clark coming from outside politics will appeal to Democrats,Independants and moderate republicans alike.Potentially giving him a realistic ability to govern for all the American people not just special intrests.Take a close look at Gen.Clark when you do you can see he's special.You can see trust and compassion.You see an American who will lift up the rest of America with him and level the playing field.You see a brighter future for America and who would vote agianst that.
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