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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:03 AM
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The Mystery of the Republican Party
You may all remember me saying that I was a former Conservative. When I was in this ideological state, I had supported John McCain.

I really don't have a problem with McCain. McCain in my opinion is an alright guy, he is not tainted with bigotry, greed, or hate. McCain is a veteran and is a good statesman.

Why is it though that McCain is not President and Bush is instead? Bush is a failure at being an Administrator, look at Texas, look at the companies he ruined. This was all because of him.

There are a lot of strange things happening, PNAC, LIHOP/MIHOP, Diebold, etc. These all deserve an explanation and so does the fact as to why Bush is President.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:10 AM
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1. I have a problem with McCain
The way he went after some of the Dems for doing their job at the nomination hearings.
The way he takes it up the ass from Shrub(2000 primaries) and then holds his hand at the convention.
http://bartcopnation.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=522

McCain is a loon.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:12 AM
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2. I do have a few problems with him
For Example: If I had a daughter and they decided to slander her to make me look bad. I would make sure someone would pay.

I don't know why he went after Rove and the racists who did that.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:12 AM
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3. Because they said he had a black baby and was the Manchurian candidate.
There was a push-polling operation directed toward South Carolina that spread all these rumors about him.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:14 AM
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4. I agree that McCain isn't as big of a liar as Bush is. I'm still waiting
for Bush to utter something that can be shown true or false that is ultimately proven to be true.

90 percent of what he says is just puffy rhetoric like "freedom is on the march" that essentially means nothing. The trouble is that sometimes he says things that can be shown true or false, like "I'm going to work with Congress to establish fiscal responsibility."

Apparently, that means sending the deficit to an all-time high.

McCain lost in SC when Bush claimed he had an out-of-wedlock black child. Actually she is adopted from Bangaldesh.

Why McCain supports that POS after what he did to him in SC remains a mystery and makes me think he just a politician after all.
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Joe Power Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:25 AM
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6. I like McCain, too
But this about sums it up:

Why McCain supports that POS after what he did to him in SC remains a mystery and makes me think he just a politician after all.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:32 AM
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10. I agree somewhat
I am not a fan of McCain but I too wonder why in the world he allowed rove and shrub to trash his family. I was genuinely surprised when he spoke at the convention in August. I wonder how his wife felt about that.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:23 AM
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5. Because Bush ran a really dirty campaign against McCain.....n/t
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:27 AM
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7. McCain is just another hypocrite. He walks lock step with the Republican
Party 99 44/100% of the time when it comes to voting. He will go against his own concscience and rationalize out loud that it was a "Hobson's Choice." His much vaunted "integrity" just doesn't exist.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:27 AM
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8. McCains act is getting old.
The plainspoken common man in washington routine is tired, especially as we watch McCain fein enlightment and objectivity on some issues, go after fluff issues like a dog chasing a frisbee, and tow the party line with full dishonesty on other issues.

If McCain were truely as open minded and populist as he claims hed be a democrat right now.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:13 AM
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13. It's posts like yours that keep me from reading an entire thread
just as soon as I know exactly what I want to say, I find some post that says it even better!

If McCain were truely as open minded and populist as he claims hed be a democrat right now.

Good point! :)
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:29 AM
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9. McCain lost all credibility this year, in his support for Bush.
Especially given how the Bush right had attacked him in the 2000 primaries, in a way eerily similar to their attacks on Kerry. Rumors were spread that he was mentally unstable from his years as a POW. His loyalty was attacked. And even his adoption of a girl was used to attack him.

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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:42 AM
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11. CK, why is there not more about the 18181, followed the link, had not
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 10:42 AM by Jon8503
heard anything about it.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:12 AM
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12. That's a good question
If you officially want to ask 'why?' too, I think you might want to put up a hyperlink of it like some other DU'ers and myself are doing.
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:18 AM
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16. Will do, how do I get the hyperlink put up? Thanks.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:24 AM
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18. Do this
(link:search.yahoo.com/search?p=%2218%2C181+votes%22&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t&fl=0&x=wrt|18181)

Go right next to your signature and put it next to your name. Replace the parenthesis with brackets and you will have a hyperlink.

Thanks for doing this. We need as many people as possible.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:14 AM
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14. The Corporatists knew that Bush would make a better puppet
and so they did their best to make sure to smear McCain's name. It is that simple.

Personally I don't hate the guy but I can't respect him for his lockstep support of shrub in 2004.

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:15 AM
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15. Even though he tends to vote conservatively...
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 11:16 AM by salin
he is not controllable nor manipulable. I think bush was chosen to run back in 1998 (days after his reelection) because he was preceived to be viewed by voters as affable AND was very controllable/manipulable.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:21 AM
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17. McCain is miles ahead of Bush, but lightyears behind many Dems.
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