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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:13 PM
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Backtracking; Anyone got 50% yet???
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 01:16 PM by LynnTheDem
Iraqi Official who spouted that 72% now says it's "too soon" to say any number...and the new number is "maybe up to" 60% "probably".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1196951

Anyone got a lower bid yet? :D


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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:15 PM
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1. I think NBC said 50%
But I can't verify it.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:15 PM
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2. I got 60, do I hear 50
It's hard to unring the bell and 72 will be the number touted by Bush* cronies.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:18 PM
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3. Oh I think that bell will be unrung...
bushCartel will just blame the Iraqis for fucking up, lol!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:23 PM
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5. So, using your brilliant frame for media pundits:
"How much did Bush&Co pay you guys to report that *insert percentage* voted?" ... in the fake election.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:26 PM
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7. BINGO!
:evilgrin:

The media is in on the new scandal and we can use it to our advantage!
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:18 PM
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4. So then estimating it at about 25% of country voted & no Sunnis
Yes, this is real democracy at work, the minority of the country is not represented at all, they are heading for a civil war with this push for a Democracy without them. This was a stupid plan on * part, he has now made sure of a civil war in Iraq. I hope he is happy with the results, very stupid man.

:kick:
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:25 PM
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6. If the old saying Vote Early and Vote Often applies, we may get up
to the total number that were strewing flowers at U.S. soldiers when they pulled Saddam's statue down. But then, it is not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes, as Bush has demonstrated in 2000 and 2004.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:27 PM
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8. How much do you want to bet Allawi's people win?
What a fucking sham. It's just a PR stunt to give legitimacy to Allawi's government, who will then write the constitution we want them to write. Yay freedom!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:30 PM
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10. Of course they will.
Seriously, how can you vote when you don't have a candidate's name?

That would be like me having a choice between the following in Illinois for Senator last year:

Republican
Democrat
Progressive
Green
Libertarian
Constitutionalist
Independent

and then come to find out that since I voted for "Democrat" and the "Democrat" won, that Alan Keyes would be my new Senator because Obama was listed under Republican.

:eyes:

How can Allawi lose under these conditions? The fix was in before the registering began!
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:52 PM
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11. Soviet style elections returns.Allawi will not merely win, but with 99.9%
majority.The only one who will dare to vote against him is possibly one of his wives. Even that one is likely to meet Anne Boleyn's fate after the elections.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:35 PM
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15. "Allawi MAN-DATE"
Remember that meme...watch the MSM lap it up.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:30 PM
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9. No, my bid is higher
120% of all Iraqis on the Planet voted.

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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:07 PM
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12. . . . and didn't I hear that only 10% registered? So 60% of 10% = 6%
:shrug:
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:10 PM
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13. Latest I just heard was that there was no accurate way to tell
at this point. The Iraqi officials are evidently backing off on their numbers. The part that gets me is that MSNBC seems to be the only one reporting this. Last I heard anywhere else was the 72% number. MSNBC was also reporting that there were places in the Sunni areas where the only people who voted were the Iraqi security people who were guarding the polling places.

Sounds like the numbers are going to continue to come down.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:22 PM
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14. My unofficial guess, from an e-mail I just received
from Jordan is:

53 dead (thus far - my family expects it to go up as they count the votes and reveal that, of course, the Shi'ites have garnered more council positions)

and about a 43 percent turnout.

This is, of course, just a guestimate, but it's what's being widely reported there.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:44 PM
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16. The problem is that they threw out the 72% and that is the
number we're going to be hearing as justification for how successful this is. It doesn't matter what comes later. An "official" said 72% and the right will use that number no matter what the actual percentage turns out to be. The majority of people, if asked 2 weeks from now, will only know that first amount, and have no idea it's been revised downwards.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:50 PM
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17. "It has been reported..........."
Yep they got that out just as many on the east coast were waking up. the "yeah but..." crowd will be painted as freedom haters.
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