The Magna Carta- birth place of democracy?

[commander bunnypants]

or should i go get in a tub of cold water. lets see what happens 100 years from now

CB

[bryant69]

1. This cryptifies me

It's been a while but isn't the Magna Carta the first document to suggest that the king shouldn't be allowed to rule anyway he wanted to?

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[Kagemusha]

2. The birthplace of democracy is Greece.

The Magna Carta was simply a bill of rights for the nobility whose ancestors were given land as a military duty compensation package and devolution of policing and garrison duties by William the Conqueror. It had nothing to do with "regular people".

If you want a blunter version, the birthplace of modern democracy is the barrel of a gun. Once a bunch of well trained shopkeepers with firearms could defeat cavalry, broad political movements gained the military strength to enforce as much democracy as they could handle.

[brainshrub]

3. And that's why I suppost the right to bear arms.

If the population didn't have access to guns, the govt would do a lot more restricting.

[commander bunnypants]

4. so where is democracy?

where do we start? i am not a supporter of what america has done,,,,but it is done. is America truly represiontial?

sorry about my spelling

was Greece or Rome truly democratic?

CB

[JNelson6563]

5. Exactly right

It was a bill of rights for the nobility. It did give the commoners ideas though as did many of the events of John's reign.

One very bright spot re: The Magna Carta was that truly the most powerful man there that day did not come from the ranks of the nobility, he was the Mayor of London. However London went, so went England and that was a testament to the power of the people.

Cheers-
Julie