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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:12 PM
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We have been waiting for something to blow up in Bush's face..
but what if nothing does? Ive been waiting for a couple years now saying to myself "this just HAS to blow up in his face and people will see how he truly is"... but nothing yet...
what if he gets by unhurt by any of this??? who will be elected next? someone worse than him??
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:12 PM
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1. Give it a month at most

http://bushspeaks.com/home.asp?did=194


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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:14 PM
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2. Bush's presidency has been one long chain of disasters
But his cult following simply doesn't care.

The guy's had the reverse Midas touch since becoming President, where everything he touches turns to shit.

If people haven't cared the last 4 years, they're not going to start caring now.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:25 PM
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6. Everything he touched in the business world turned to shit, too.
He was always bailed out by his dad's friends at our expense. Everyone else involved got the shaft.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:43 PM
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19. Yes, he's addicted to OPiuM. (Other People's Money)
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:25 AM
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22. I know you're right, Sharon!
:(
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:16 AM
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27. True that.
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 01:17 AM by d_b
It's one disater after another. But when your party controls the goverment - coupled with a subservient media - it's easier to slide on by.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:15 PM
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3. It took two years for Watergate to blow up in Nixon's face.
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 03:15 PM by ocelot
But blow it did. Be patient. What we already know is awful, so there's got to be some even worse stuff out there. Where there's smoke there's fire; where there's beans there's gas, and it will all have to pop eventually. The Chimperor is accumulating some pretty heinous karma.
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:17 PM
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4. lol where theres beans there is gas? lol ...
never heard that one before ;) can i steal it :D lol
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:44 PM
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15. Yes, Karma is our friend! :) nt
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:37 AM
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23. for nixon, it was a LONG LONG wait....and there were so many BIG crimes


AND the Vietnam WAR raged every day, while the DRAFT sucked up our friends and family mercilessly....


finally, Watergate caught up to nixon, but Watergate was SUCH A LITTLE TINY PART of the nixon crimes, real TINY....for some reason though, it caught the American Public's attention...that the USA president had ORDERED a break-in.....and even at that....it wasn't the break-in that did nixon in...IT WAS THE COVER-UP of the break-in.....


so today, nobody knows WHAT crimes will take down bush* (there are sooooOOOOO many...bush* is so much worse than nixon)....but IMO, something will take the spotlight...could be something BIG or something SMALL....but there get's a point where America has had enough and that becomes the point of no return....and there's a LOT being COVERED-UP by bush* and his minions....


something will bubble up...for nixon, it was about 18 months into his second term that he resigned....IMO, what really pushed nixon to resign was that he had become TERRIFIED of the military (who were RAGING mad about the insane WAR, and the poor treatment of OUR war-injured troops).....and it actually was nixon's OWN PARTY, the reTHUGlicans, who went to the White House and told him to LEAVE...nixon resigned and left the next morning...
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:22 PM
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5. The problem is DEMS wont go on TV and make frank, blunt accusations.
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 03:22 PM by Dr Fate
Whether we are talking about Harkengate, Enron, documnent forgeries concerning WMDs, media payola or anything else in his litany of lies...

Its Democrats who let these scandals die down- no one is stopping Democrats from talking about these things and making them "blow up in his face."

...the problem is that there is no organized, UNIFIED effort w/i DEM party leadership to go after him like the GOP did w/ Clinton.
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Osamasux Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:28 PM
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7. I've sensed a sea change recently.
Boxer's election challenge started it. She followed through with the Condi Committee vote. The full Senate Condi vote started gaining momentum. Then Gonzalez gets a goose egg from the Dems in committee.

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:30 PM
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9. I'm encouraged as well...
...but we need to keep on them!
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Osamasux Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:33 PM
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13. Absolutely.
On all possible fronts.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:29 PM
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8. Very true! Dem leaders need to get brutal with the bastid! Where are the..
WMDs?:nuke::grr:
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:49 PM
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20. Exactly- they always let Republicans define the discussion.
It's not rocket science. Get out there and say that Bush has sex with horses. Make them say, "no, he does not have sex with horses".

They can set the battle lines anywhere they choose. The Dems simply aren't aggressive enough to take ground.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:13 PM
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21. I disagree- we do not need to make things up like they do...
...we do ot say "he has sex with horses"- we cant prove that.

We can say "Bush is a corrupt, lying criminal"- we can prove that.

Thats the difference b/t DEMS & the GOP/media- we dont have to make shit up.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:16 AM
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37. Too few dems will call a disaster a disaster
who is to be surprised if the electorate doesn't get it?

Who is to be shocked when Dems first reaction to every Bush blunder is to rally around the president and not criticized him, that the electorate also rallies around him?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:30 PM
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10. Wars and deficits have to be ''Paid For" either by taxes or inflation
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 03:31 PM by EVDebs
Vietnam and the 1962 tax cut and then an ensuing 1967 tax surcharge to pay for the Vietnam War and 'Great Society' simultaneously. After the height of the war, inflation took off when not enough tax money was generated to pay the difference. To top it off, oil stopped being 'cheap' and we became dependent upon foreign sources.

Fast forward to today. Bush can only delay the inevitable.

Worst President ever, slowly becomes a possiblity if not inevitablilty so long as he "Stays the course". One can only hope for a 'road to Damascus' moment...but his yes-men continue to give poor advise.
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Osamasux Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:33 PM
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11. Good points.
Disagree slightly with the last paragraph. It is becoming a 'certainty', not a 'possibility'.

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:33 PM
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12. Lot's of things blow up in his face
But the media is so used to wiping his ass, they let him get away with it...

Plus he has a rigid voting block of "true believers" who refuse to critically examine anything he does.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:33 PM
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14. You mean, like a failed war, pointless deaths, huge deficits, attack on US
It has already happened.

Dems can't win by waiting for Bush or the rightwingers to ADMIT he is a abject failure.

And you can't beat something with nothing.
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kendall Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:43 AM
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32. By "pointless deaths" you mean "failed election"
The problem with proclaiming deaths in Iraq as pointless, is that then it makes it seem like you are saying the election has failed.

Yet that flies in the face of everything that is being reported, even by the arab media. If you call the deaths pointless as this juncture, then by reverse association you are making a statement that very few people right now are willing to believe.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:14 AM
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36. Not at all. The deaths are thanks to Bush incompetence
and aren't justified.

All you have done is attach some meaning to the elections "being failed" or "not failed". Anyone care what it means for the elections to be "not failed" so that I can see if something good came out of over 1400 American deaths, tens of thousands of Iraqi deaths?

The soldiers are dead today. All Bush can do is promise that there are going to be roses, someday, of a nature he can't describe, growing out of all of his shit.
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kiraboo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:09 PM
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16. You've hit it exactly.
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 04:10 PM by kiraboo
Except it's too late to even speak about anything affecting him and his regime. GWB Syndrome has invaded the U.S. like a virus and is slowly changing the way people think, one individual at a time. America has always been at war in one form or another, but covertly, and without the general awareness of its citizens. Now, though, we are aware... and rejoicing! Apparently nothing is so exciting as invading other countries and watching people die. I am appalled at the rise of the fundamentalist nutjobs; I am sick that Bush is viewed as a savior and not the devil he is. But what terrifies me the most is that our perception of how we fit in the world has been changed (permanently?) since Bush took office. We will offer up our children gladly in the name of whatever strikes our government's fancy; and we will teach them that war is not a last resort - not an evil - but a legitimate means to any end, any time, anywhere. It's medieval. It's horrifying.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:38 PM
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17. Nothing will touch him
The right has achieved it's 30-year agenda.
They have complete control of the Congress and the White House. Soon they will have a lock on the Supreme Court. They have purchased every major media outlet. They have the allegiance of the military. They have the allegiance of corporate America. They have no opposition. They count the votes in secret.
At this time there is no institution left that can call for accountability.






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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:42 PM
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18. Yes, someone worse, ARNIE, the TERMINATOR!
It's coming..........
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:52 AM
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24. Now its time to...Check With the Expert !!!!!!
Lets see what the top leading expert on being Run Out of Office has to say:

"When the strongest nation in the world can be tied up for ... years in a war ... with no end in sight, when the richest nation in the world can't manage its own economy, when the nation with the greatest tradition of the rule of law is plagued by unprecedented lawlessness, ... and when the President of the United States cannot travel abroad or to any major city at home without fear of a hostile demonstration - then it's time for new leadership for the United States of America."
-- Richard Nixon, 1968


Checklist:
Strongest Nation tied up in War...check!

No End in Sight..........Check!

Richest Nation can't manage own economy....Check!

Rule of Law Plagued by Lawlessness(torture)...Check!

President cannot travel abroad w/o HUGE demonstrations....Check!

President cannot travel in US w/o HUGE demonstrations...Check!!


Looks like All THE INGREDIENTS ARE THERE FOR A HUGE SHAME PIE for the Republicans!!!!
All we have to do is keep the pot simmering!!!

I mean really, who would know more about this than NIXON!!!
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:58 AM
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25. Whatever it is
it'll have to be bigger than the spin of nonchalence and lowered expectations that the media has been involved in for the last 4 years to get the public's attention. I think we're all going to get hurt when it happens.
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:49 AM
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33. I think its going to take the American public
realizing that most of the 'good' news they have been hearing about bush is propaganda bought and paid for with our tax dollars. As soon as it becomes part of the public consciousness that bush is a crook the slide will begin and it will go downhill fast. He will be caught-it is just a matter of time.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:13 AM
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26. I think it's going to take someone on the inside
with access to classified documents to take this administration down. There is no doubt in my mind that if certain documents were to be de-classified, the "Bin-Laden Determined To Attack Inside The U.S." comes right to mind, the administration will sink like a stone.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:23 AM
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28. Don't expect another Watergate scenario
Unlike Nixon, Bushit controls the press and congress. It's going to take some monumental mistake or someone on the inside that is totally fed up.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:29 AM
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29. You mean if everything goes okay? I don't see a problem with that.
But it won't. You think that a third of Iraq is going to accept the legitimacy of a government entirely elected by the class they had been oppressing for the past forty years?
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:29 AM
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30. Tick.Tick.Tick.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:40 AM
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31. things HAVE blown up, over and over
but the corporate media IGNORES THEM
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:04 AM
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34. yes it amazes me too
any of the rest of us could not screw up that much and raise to the top - the whole family is that way - his dad bailing in a plane and letting the other guys die - the coke, the awol, the drugs in the whole family line, just incredible how protected they are from ever facing their path of destruction - and no guilt - they have no remorse for all the lives they have stolen or the people they have killed

doing everything 'right' does not always pay it seems
these people did evil things and continue to live the easy life - go figure

the whole bunch of rethugs - I am absolutely amazed every day -
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LadyRaivan Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:06 AM
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35. It's amazing
I was absolutely dumbfounded after the election. The past four years have been utterly surreal...did people really vote for this guy? AGAIN? It's...I can't even describe it. He steps on his crank over and over and over again, and yet NOTHING HAPPENS, and the lunatic right falls at his feet like he's their (and by default, our) savior. This is our President? How on Earth can this mess be our country?

I know I'm babbling but I can't even find the words to express my disbelief. It's like watching a train wreck.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:20 AM
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38. he could be caught on his knees in the Oval office servicing condi
with video, photos, a taped confession and I am convinced he would suffer no repercussions.
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