Do you think that we will pull out of Iraq?

[bryant69]

Let's assume the elections are declared a success. Will we pull out if Iraq, or pull the bulk of our troops out of Iraq?

If so, why? And if not, why not?

Bryant
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[demnan]

1. As long as there is a drop of oil in that unforgiving desert

and the greedy war mongers who run this country are in charge, we will be there.

[mopaul]

2. sure, we have to invade Iran next, but we'll keep an Iraqi 'presence'

democracy means your nation isn't under occupation by another nation.

[leftchick]

3. The USA Has NO Intention of Ever Pulling out of Iraq!!!

Think... Permanent Presence!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2281&nc...


Though the media ignored Kerry's statement and failed to do any substantive follow-up research, his comments were well-grounded in reality. On the day of the debate the Christian Science Monitor spotlighted the findings of defense specialist John Pike, whose website, GlobalSecurity.org, located twelve "enduring bases" in Iraq, including satellite photos and names. In March, the Chicago Tribune reported that US engineers were constructing fourteen such long-term encampments--the number Kerry referred to. The New York Times previously placed the number at four.


While the exact figure may change, suspicions of undisclosed US imperial plans--exemplified by permanent military bases--rightfully linger. Before the war, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz suggested moving US troops stationed in Saudi Arabia into Iraq. In October, a survey by the University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes found that two-thirds of respondents disapproved of a permanent military presence, even though more than half thought the US would build the bases anyway.


Now comes a report in the New York Sun by Eli Lake revealing that the Pentagon (news - web sites) is building a permanent military communications system in Iraq, a necessary foundation for any lasting troop presence. The new network will comprise twelve communications towers throughout Iraq, linking Camp Victory in Baghdad to other existing (and future) bases across the country, eventually connecting with US bases in Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Afghanistan (news - web sites).


"People need to get realistic and think in terms of our presence being in Iraq for a generation or until democratic stability in the region is reached," Dewey Clarridge, the CIA (news - web sites)'s former chief of Arab operations (and Iran-contra point man), told the Sun.

[sweetheart]

4. They will negotiate a "State of Forces Agreement" to stay

Then, americans will hole up on the bases they plan to keep. The SOFA
will say, "tough shit" if you don't like our bases, then take'em away
"bring it on". Look to okinawa and how the US military takes whatever
it wants and shits on the local people... that is the future of iraq
if those who want the bush nazis out, do not create enough pain.

[LynnTheDem]

31. Status of Forces agreement

bush already tried to put a SOFA in place in Iraq in 2003. The UN said no way no how; illegal under occupation. Bet bush's handpicked AllawiCabal now have "authority" to ok a SOFA.

[leftofthedial]

5. the elections are a symbolic event, but change nothing on the ground

Iraq is still out of control

Until there is order, Halliburton and PNAC can have their way only while the Murkan occupying force is there.

[bryant69]

6. Interesting that there is no middle ground

Or I should say, no votes for the middle ground.

[Poppyseedman]

7. We will never leave Iraq

as a military presence.

We will establish peacetime bases for operational purposes. Think Syria, Iran, Saudi Arbia.

Our footprint will always be there.

As for pulling our combat fighting forces out, I think we will. Hopefully soon as possible.

[BikeWriter]

12. We'll pull out when even the RW are sick of the killing. n/t

[Astrocytoma3]

8. Maybe in 2 or 3 years

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. I do. We'll be 'dis-invited' before the 2006 elections.

One thing I'm anxious to see is the numbers in support of the Iraqi candidates who ran on a campaign of getting the US out of the country.

[K-W]

10. Iraqi leaders who dont agree with the US get removed.

I would think that would have been obvious by now.

[BikeWriter]

11. Withdrawal is not the stated PNAC goal!

:(

[bryant69]

24. I don't know

I do think PNAC is important, but I don't think it's written in stone.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

13. Pushed out.

[bryant69]

14. If we are pushed out we won't admit it

We'll find some other reason. Pretend like we won or something.

[Microdot]

16. In about...

fifty years maybe.

[bryant69]

19. 50 years? What makes you think we are going to sit still that long?

I mean how long were we in vietnam?

[K-W]

17. With what army?

Did you mean by the resistance?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

27. Yep.

Home and abroad. Right after the coming civil war or the coming power play by an as yet unknown entity. Or both.

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[Ronnie]

18. We will pull back

to the fourteen bases. Then we will attack Iran. This is so sick.

[K-W]

20. Well it all depends on the Iraqi security forces.

If we can setup an internally stable pro-american regime and give them a powerful enough force, perhaps they can pull this off. Im not yet ready to say they can't. But I wouldnt bet on it.

[rniel]

21. they are building 14 bases there

I've heard. The permanent kind, not a temporary solution.

[mwwittin]

22. Mostly

The pressure is building from the public, the military community, foreign governments, coalition/NATO partners and the government itself. As soon as things settle down the military will begin a slow, orderly withdrawal from Iraq. It is being planned now. It'll take a few years (particularly those troops doing de-mining along the borders), but it'll happen. There will be US troops there in smaller numbers even after, I believe, probably pulling many of the CENTCOM folks out of the Arabian Penninsula.

Bush wants to say "Mission Accomplished" again, this time for real. He'll keep our boys (and girls) there until things quiet down and the IRaqis can take over for themselves.

[klyon]

23. Two things I would like to know

Is the Bush administration still planning on maintaining permanent bases in Iraq? Is the PNAC still the plan for taking over the Middle East IE. foreign policy.

KL

[Johonny]

25. Don't we have to wait

until the Shiite death squads are fully trained?

[donheld]

26. Unless we go after Iran

we won't pull out of Iraq. If we attack Iran we may leave Iraq high and dry.

[AgadorSparticus]

28. we'll pull out of iraq and fall right into iran

[zmdem]

29. Pull out ? Doesn't sound manly to me

Apologies to Geo. Carlin ;)

[Rockerdem]

30. In the next election we will elect a Democrat that promises it

Then we will leave. * is too damn stubborn.

[Cozmosis]

32. bahahahaha no way!