The End-Result of Yesterday's "Election" In Iraq

[Yavin4]

The media hype will boost public opinion for staying in Iraq for at least another year which means that another 500-1000 American servicemen and women killed, and another 20,000 to 30,000 Iraqis killed. That "election" was purely for American public opinion.

[leftchick]

1. more like 1000 - 2000 US soldiers

at the least. We are far exceeding last years pace for deaths. And those are the ones we know of.

:(

[bryant69]

2. I don't see it

I think if the election had failed than that would be a better argument for us staying another year--as it is, the election makes a nice capstone--we've done our work, let's saddle up and head off to Iran.

Bryant
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[Yavin4]

4. If The Elections Had Failed, We Would Have Had To Pull Out

sooner.

[K-W]

7. Certainly, because the only way for the elections to have failed

would have been Sisteni turning on the US, or an unprecedented terrorist offensive, either of which would have placed the US in a very bad strategic position and possibly forced us out.

The election means we have legitimacy for our occupation.

[Ken Burch]

23. Do we have any idea on turnout, or on who, pray tell "won"?

[K-W]

6. What dont you see?

That this election will change nothing in Iraq? The US will still be there and still have the last say. The Shia and Kurd leadership will still be working with the US government trying to get power. The resistance will continue. The people will still be torn between thier desire for the US to leave and thier fear of even more chaos.

The ONLY thing that has changed is that the US cotrolled government has an election to to present as a badge of legitimacy in the US and to the international community.

[BlueManDude]

3. It was a PR stunt

think Saddam's statue, Mission Accomplished landing, transfer of "sovereignty", Iraqi elections etc etc etc. Next one will be the swearing in of Allawi as PM which will be hyped as a triumph.

I think at least 50% of the Amer public is beyond supporting this war regardless of the PR - not that it matters.

[bemildred]

26. Pure PR. You'd think the press was all stoned the way they go on.

It's like watching a bunch of stoners grooving on Gilligan's Island.
There is still no electricity, water, gasoline, or oil exports, and
today and tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow there will still be more
dead people, Iraqi and US military.

[Zeke]

5. DU Brothers & Sisters---Hear Me!

As long as Cheney & Rummy are Prez,
the USA soldiers are NEVER LEAVING
Iraq---Never!

Iran & Syria are their next agenda
along with a US military draft.

[no_to_war_economy]

8. election was just a vehicle to help * rewrite history

see how great * is, how wise * is - just look at what alittle war and death will get you

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. The 'wonderful' was for US public opinion, but

here's what my take is...

Bush wants out. But he can't do a blatant cut-n-run. So, now the Iraqis have voted. The majority of Americans either do not realize or fail to comprehend the fact that this government is temporary. Even so, it has the appearance of authority from the people.

As violence keeps escalating, the elected (temporary) government will officially go to the UN and ask for help. This will allow them to "dis-invite" the US troops.

Bush can say "the Iraqi people have tasted democracy and this is their will". France, Germany, Russia, (and China too) will be front and center as coming in to aid, train troops, provide assistance, etc.

He can start withdrawing troops and have the majority home by the time the 2006 election campaigns are heating up.

Yes, they have a plan and a timeline. I don't doubt it for a minute.

[K-W]

10. Bush doesnt want out.

He wants an internationally recognized government under the control of the US that can with US arms and training keep control of Iraq. The US forces will retreat into bases where they wont be in as much danger. With the US death toll basically halted, and an Iraqi government to parade in front of the cameras, he can declare victory and an end to the war even though we will still have soldier in Iraq occyping it, the American people wont know any better and we will bomb iran or venezuala.

[Norquist Nemesis]

11. I agree. All under my scenario.

But it's all about the PR. Bush does want out...just not completely. He wants to go off stage right and work from behind the curtain just as you've said. But before he can, he has to get the US face off the front lines. That's why I think this temporary government will go the way I've proposed.

This temporary government is not going to be doing ANYTHING solo and independent. All of it is under advise and consent of US officials under the Bush administration.

[Yavin4]

12. You Don't Make Somone Like Negroponte The Ambassador

if your goal is to pull out of a country. Negroponte's specialty is propping up brutal dictatorships.

[cthrumatrix]

13. BINGO

[K-W]

15. Seriously, how quickly everyone forgets Reagan and Bush1

Anyone who falls for this election needs to hit the books.

[Norquist Nemesis]

21. How will Bush spin the installation of

a dictator to the US? :shrug:

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[tabasco]

19. Just keep telling yourself that.

Better yet, get your ass over there and see for yourself how the violence will decrease.

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[Norquist Nemesis]

20. "Follow the news, folks"

ummm....It appears that would be Faux Views for fair and balanced information.

Gotcha!

[Yavin4]

22. Yes, Like When The Violence Would Supposed to Decrease After...

...the toppling of Baghdad
...the killing of Saddam's sons
...Major operations were declared over (Remember "Mission Accomplished"?)
...the capturing of Saddam
...the turn-over of power to the Allawi

and now, the Iraqi "vote" will stop all of the violence.

After every momentous "turn", the violence got worse, not better, worse. Before you declare DU a "mockery", why don't you look at facts and evidence first.

[Darkhawk32]

14. The American whore media never wants this war to end....

It's money in the bank to them to keep it going.

[Yavin4]

17. That Is Until Their Children Have to Leave Yale and Princeton

and go fight. Then watch how they turn on Rove in a minute. As long as someone else's kid is doing the dying, the media is A-Okay with war.

[Darkhawk32]

18. ayup. n/t

[Rebel_blogger]

24. I heard on another blog (trying to find link) ...

That the video supposedly from the elections in Iraq were in fact shot from somewhere else by actors. If you look at some of them closely, you'll see the same people repeatedly. It's all about making things look "legitimate".

[Darkhawk32]

27. That woudl be very interesting to read.... n/t

[skypilot]

25. Another end result of the election...

...will probably be that the insurgents will know exactly who to assassinate now.