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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:48 PM
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"If Ann Coulter was fat, would anyone listen to her?"
Someone at work said that last week.

OK, it's a blatantly sexist statement, but how far is it from the truth?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:49 PM
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1. Well, there's Candy Crowley.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:52 PM
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6. Beat me
Just what I was going to say. She was the first person that jumped to my mind too.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:40 PM
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21. I've seen her. Where's the candy?
:puke:
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:51 PM
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2. Does anybody listen to her now?
Isn't she a joke, to all but the most far-right wing?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:51 PM
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3. Jeez, yet another shot at fat people.
I hate to say it but Rush was fat for along time and alot of idiots listened to him. I'm sure an equal number of idiots would listen to Ann if she was fat. Fat people are not our enemy, Republicans are. Yet sometimes one gets the feeling that there alot of hostility towards unperfect body types here on DU, imo.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:14 PM
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11. Rush is on the radio - where looks and weight aren't an issue.
At least that's what I'm led to believe when people tell me I have a face for radio.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:51 PM
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4. I think they would
It wouldn't matter if she were heavy, she'd still be labled The Mindless Mouth That Roars Endlessly.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:52 PM
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5. Fascist party dolls are supposed to be skinny blonds w/big Adams Apples
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:55 PM
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7. LOL great pic-thanks n/t
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:55 PM
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8. It's true......
A guy can possibly get away with being fat and a loudmouth. Women like Annie have to wrap their ugly propaganda up by trying to claim how pretty they look.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:58 PM
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9. Yeah, just watched "Sticks and Stones"...
...mAnn and that chick from Canada, what a pair. I'll refrain from further comment about sharp pointy chasms of the abyss. Anyone seen "Drawn Together", with the racist princess? Bingo.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:02 PM
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10. It is blantantly sexist
but the person has a point. Mann and Laura Ingraham are the "miniskirt Republicans," who go on talk shows and sneer at women's rights and those nasty, nasty liberals, all the while viewed as pieces of meat for horny Freepers to drool over. If she was fat and ugly, they wouldn't give her as much attention.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:15 PM
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12. could you sort of make up a picture of a fat Coulter?
Someone could do that..i dont know how, but it would be fun to see.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:17 PM
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13. Well Rush Limbaugh is fat and they listen to him.
He says the same things she does, so would it make any difference? I doubt it.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:43 PM
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22. True, the troglodytes love the Fat Lizard
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NurseLefty Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:18 PM
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14. I hate Ann Coulter but the logic behind that question pisses me off.
It is suggesting that if a woman is fat, that makes her and her opinions less worthy.
I'm a woman and not thin, therefore I guess that means I am less worthy, and what I have to say is not worth paying attention to. Thanks a lot.
:eyes: :wtf:
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:48 PM
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24. It's supposed to piss you off...........
.....it's an opening to a discussion of how society looks at people and treats what they say based on how they look.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:51 PM
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26. No, that is not what the logic of the question is.
The point is that for a woman to get that sort of media exposure she pretty much has to fit certain physical requirements.

I am sure there are plenty of fat rightwing female screechmonkeys--but we never hear about them. The point of the question is not that fat women are not worth listening to, but that things being the way they are, fat women are not likely to be listened to.

On the other hand, the physical requirements for media exposure and power are much more flexible for men, which is why Rush got a pass when he was a big fat idiot rather than just a big idiot.

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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:23 PM
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15. As a heavyset woman, I say the answer is no
So let's start sending the bitch boxes of Ho-Ho's, people!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:28 PM
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16. Sure. Bushbots are programmed to respond to Reptile Impulses Delivered by
a Certified PARTY member.

Bolshevik or Bushevik, who can tell the difference?

As such, if a Party Member, like Limba, Insannity, or O'Reichley said something, it is internalized as gosepl truth without question nor examination.

A more appopriate question would be would the Busheviks have certified and assisted Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS, if shw was fat?

Looking at the Faux Bimbots, maybe not. But once the Party certified her as Approved, Bushbots would adoringly believe every word she said without a thought or question.

Monsters, all.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:46 PM
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23. HAHA!! The Busheviks...
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:32 PM
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17. I think a lot of people are knee jerking to the wrong question.
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 04:02 PM by aden_nak
The question was not, "Does a person's weight have any bearing on the validity of their opinions?" The question was, "Due to the way Coulter portrays herself, and the audience she sells her opinions to, do you think she would have a successful a career as she does if she was fat?"

And honestly, the answer is no. That doesn't mean that her opinions count for less, or that they are less valid (in fact, they are hardly opinions, and more like crazy outbursts). It also doesn't speak to the importance of other peoples' opinions regardless of how much they weigh or what they look like.

But Coulter hocks her shrill shillery to a largely backwards, largely male audience that gets off having something thin and blonde saying nasty things about people they don't like. Yes, Rush can be a fat cow and still work his radio magic, but the fact is that he's not only a man, but he's marketing himself differently.

Coulter is actually smarter than her lunacy lets on. You see, she is calling one great big long bluff on the liberal pundits (what few there are), and it goes something like this. "I'm attractive (in theory), blonde, and I have an opinion, so therefore liberals have to let me speak or else they themselves are enforcing a stereotype about women." It's part of her routine, part of her smug grin. . . it's one of the cornerstones of her whole act.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:55 PM
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27. Thanks! You saved me from typing all that. nt
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:03 PM
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28. Sometimes predisposition can get the better of people. Even at DU.
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Mr Blonde Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:32 PM
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18. I doubt her sincerity
She is so outrageous, I think her whole persona may just be a way of getting attention. I mean, who could really believe the vile hatred that she spews on a regular basis? Short of a true Nazi of course. A world run by Ann Coulter would be a horrifying, uninhabitable place. Like others have said, she's a gimmick. A blonde in a skirt who appeals to the sexually deprived far rightists.
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:33 PM
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19. i'm fat, nobody listens to me n/t
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Seemann For Congress Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:37 PM
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20. I think the real statement should be.....
"If Ann Coulter was SANE, would anybody listen to her?"

She knows exactly what gets her on the TV and radio, and it isn't her looks (and frankly, I don't see any good looks there). Being reactionary and WAY far right-wing gets her the publicity she craves.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:50 PM
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25. Yes, they'd just call her Rush.
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lakemonster11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:12 PM
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29. Of course I don't know about the spirit in which this question
was asked, but it doesn't sound blatantly sexist to me. It sounds like it's pointing out the blatantly sexist nature of our society.

And no, I don't think anyone would pay attention to Ann Coulter if she were overweight or in any other way less conventionally "attractive" than she is.

Of course, I think it helps that the things she says are so blazingly idiotic and attention-seeking.

Rush Limbaugh is a man and on the radio, so he can't be compared.

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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:34 PM
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30. Maggie Gallagher
Ain't that skinny and she spouts out hate filled antidotal spews all the time in her editorials.

Typical Gallagher article is something like ..."then little Jean was daughter to a mother in a gay marriage. And she says it was terrible. Blah, blah, blah." And so you see why gay marriage will be bad for kids.

I think there should be a list of women who hate women:
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rowire Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:39 PM
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31. She Already Has An Eating Disorder
They listen to her even though she is anorexic, why would they stop if she suffered from some other eating disorder?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:43 PM
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32. I do my best not to listen to her skinny ass now.
:spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:52 PM
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33. Doesn't matter what she looks like on the outside
Especially since she's crazier than a shithouse rat on the inside.
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