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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:54 PM
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Why are the wingnuts acting like Bush has been vindicated?
Has lasting peace been established in Iraq?

Are the troops on their way home?

Have WMD now been found?

Has the infrastructure in Iraq been rebuilt?


As with Bush's "Mission Accomplished" stunt, the self-congratulatory orgy over yesterday's "election" shows that symbolism counts a lot more than substance for the neocons.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:55 PM
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1. "I leave symbols to the symbolminded." - George Carlin
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:55 PM
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2. Tell a lie
often enough
loud enough
brazenly enough

and

SHAZAMMM!!!!! IT BECOMES TRUTH!!!!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:06 PM
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14. As in Register to vote isn't - the 12 million were the folks on the food
ration rolls - plus 2 million expats

and only 10% of the 2 m expats actually reqistered to vote as there was no worry about loss of food.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:55 PM
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3. They do that all the time
Hell, they are always doing their touchdown dance on the 20 yard line.

It's one of the reasons nothing really ever works the way they think it will. Instead, they just change history to fit how it came out.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:03 PM
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11. Delete
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 05:05 PM by Sandpiper
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:56 PM
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4. They think they've showed us liberals something.
It's "Mission Accomplished" all over again. Their little party will be short-lived, as usual.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:58 PM
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5. They've been wrong about so many things - they have to latch on this one
In a few months this could be another "Mission Accomplished" moment.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:58 PM
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6. This will only last a day or two. Jackson trial has started
and the world is about to stop.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:58 PM
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7. The wingnuts are reveling in the propaganda success.
It too will turn to shit .. and soon. Michail Gorbachev spoke for most of the world when he called the Iraq "elections" fake.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:01 PM
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8. Watch the news and you'll see why
You have to remember these people watch the "news" and take every word as gospel. They're not able to think beyond what they're being told.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:02 PM
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9. Don't know, but I heard a radio clip of my rep. this a.m. and he
was carrying on about how the election "justified" Iraq and proved that it was the right thing to do. I was screaming, "Is that what you sent soldiers over there to die for. Elections and not the WMDs they and we were told about". My kids couldn't believe they were hearing this crap.
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:03 PM
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10. Real Iraqi Elections haven't happened.
They did not use the candidates names in these elections, because sadly, the candidates would have been assassinated. Large areas of the country are still unsecured. The Iraqis were voting for framers of their constitution...not for a president. A small step, but a step none-the-less, and one that much bullshit and political hay will be made from.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:04 PM
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12. more importantly
it takes heat away from the things happening here:

the Payola scandals
The still mysterious 9/11 findings
election fraud
Gonzales

it's kind of like this story - about all the good things the Nazis can do:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=7&u=/nm/20050131/od_nm/nazis_road_dc

<snip>
PORTLAND, Ore. (Reuters) - The American Nazi Party has volunteered to pick up trash along a quiet stretch of rural road in Oregon state, causing an uproar after getting a sign placed there crediting its work.

The issue has flared up in the same week that world leaders and aging survivors gathered in the Polish town of Auschwitz to mark the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the infamous Nazi death camp.

"American Nazi Party" reads the sign, which is part of the "Adopt-A-Road" program, a widely promoted U.S. scheme encouraging local groups to clean up road litter in exchange for recognition on small signs.

The sign, located on a quiet stretch of road near Salem, Oregon, also lists the initials "NSM," which stands for the National Socialists Movement, another white supremacists group.
</snip>

see? We can forget about all of that Holocaust stuff and the racism. They picked up some litter!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:04 PM
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13. SPIN SPIN SPIN Media whores, dimwitted US public, KKKarl Rove,
master manipulator. There have been very few things that KKKarl has not been able to turn to the idiot's advantage since he has the press in his tidy whiteys.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:07 PM
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15. Not to mention approaching $300,000,000,000..where is it?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:08 PM
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16. it's a hobby.
it something to do after a hard days work of raising the debt and increasing the deficit and getting our soldiers killed for a lie.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:10 PM
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17. 'Cause they're stupid and they have short memories.
I got sick of the god-damned crowing about how this election justifies Bush's actions.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:14 PM
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18. after failure after failure after failure after failure
they're eager for any shred of "positive news" from Iraq--even if it is literally a shred.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:16 PM
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19. In their minds he has been vindicated. All hell is about to break loose
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 05:17 PM by hector459
so let's see how they feel around Friday, after the State of the Union Speech and hysteria of this phony election dies down.

I have stopped watching the cable MSM and I definitely will not watch the State of the Union.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:18 PM
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20. This is why the troops will come home sooner than later...
If Bush brings the troops home now, then the American media won't report on Iraq anymore. If violence breaks out, and a civil war starts, you will never hear about it.

If Bush stays, the MSM will have to report on it, and Americans perception of this war will get even worse.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:23 PM
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21. Because that was the entire plan...to make people forget that he launched
an unprovoked, illegal invasion against a disarmed, UN compliant country. It is the ONLY reason this "election" occurred.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:26 PM
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22. READ THIS-Bush didn't want the elections Sistani made him
God it is like Bush grew up in a country club and in every instance "on the street" he totally gets played.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3035262
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:30 PM
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23. talking points... probably be able to sniff out a few more on the * payrol
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 05:59 PM by bpilgrim
before this chapter plays out :evilgrin:

remember all the hype when Saddam was capture, the 'hand-over', mission accomplished, etc.

as the death toll mounts, it will soon be back to the 'liberal media distorts the facts on the ground by only focusing on the negative'

once the draft starts things will come to a boil real quick... the only question i have is what the pretext will be... will the Iraq quagmire be reason enough? since they are apparent;y incapable of admitting mistakes i fear it wont be enough :scared:

peace
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:37 PM
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24. They're dancing as fast as they can.
They know the Bushies are staring disaster in the face; how can the next four years be good for them in any way, shape, or form?

Let them have this. It'll be over soon enough, Allawi doing the puppet thing, etc.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:41 PM
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25. If I remember correctly
They pretty much acted this way over the mission accomplished stunt, give it some time they'll be saying election? what election?
Another reason the moron* can't pull out is there wouldn't be anything to distract the idiots.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:42 PM
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26. Becuase they ALWAYS act like that
whenever there isn't a total shitstorm in progress. Every little thing they can turn into a victory they will. Like their "mandate".....
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