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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:44 PM
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14 permanent military bases in Iraq says Scott Ritter on Randi's show
We aren't getting out says Scott Ritter. He
quotes billions already spent on them.
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zbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:45 PM
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1. The "missing" 9 billion, perhaps? nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:46 PM
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2. Exactly what I was thinking. Aren't they talking about spending
$1.5 billion on the US Embassy?
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:48 PM
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4. Yeah, you have to wonder what Saddam's palace was missing...
that Americans need $1.5 billion more to fix it up.
Journalists anywhere?
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:46 PM
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3. re:elections
Scott says we saw an operation months
in the planning for one election day...
Not a secure environment though that
Americans know and love...can't sustain
it endlessly.
Scott called the election charade only
for domestic consumer consumption alone...
(US propoganda..my words)
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:49 PM
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5. this is a good interview with Scott Ritter
will have to look for link on randi's website....
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:54 PM
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8. link to Randi's website
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 07:05 PM
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20. Is there a transcript? Windows Media locks up my computer.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:52 PM
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6. Why did we invade Iraq, Randi asks Scott
Scott says

Pretty much the neocon PNAC plan to destroy Saddam,
Iraq, Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia....bases
set up in that area, hence 14 permanent military
bases.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:53 PM
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7. would love to hear a question re: is there going to be a permanent US
military presence in Iraq? at a press "conference" with the President.

(may need to put that one in my "don't hold your breath file"...)
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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:54 PM
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9. the "reporter" who asks that question will need someone to start their
car for them afterwards.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:59 PM
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11. heh heh Absolutely right! This is all info that the media whores
would NEVER raise in the mainstream media.
There would be car accidents, plane crashes, and sudden urges to"commit suicide".
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:59 PM
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10. oh yeah
and talk about Saddam and his role with
the CIA....

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030410-070214-6557r

By Richard Sale
UPI Intelligence Correspondent
Published 4/10/2003 7:30 PM

U.S. forces in Baghdad might now be searching high and low for Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, but in the past Saddam was seen by U.S. intelligence services as a bulwark of anti-communism and they used him as their instrument for more than 40 years, according to former U.S. intelligence diplomats and intelligence officials.
United Press International has interviewed almost a dozen former U.S. diplomats, British scholars and former U.S. intelligence officials to piece together the following account. The CIA declined to comment on the report.
While many have thought that Saddam first became involved with U.S. intelligence agencies at the start of the September 1980 Iran-Iraq war, his first contacts with U.S. officials date back to 1959, when he was part of a CIA-authorized six-man squad tasked with assassinating then Iraqi Prime Minister Gen. Abd al-Karim Qasim.
In July 1958, Qasim had overthrown the Iraqi monarchy in what one former U.S. diplomat, who asked not to be identified, described as "a horrible orgy of bloodshed."
According to current and former U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, Iraq was then regarded as a key buffer and strategic asset in the Cold War with the Soviet Union. For example, in the mid-1950s, Iraq was quick to join the anti-Soviet Baghdad Pact which was to defend the region and whose members included Turkey, Britain, Iran and Pakistan.
Little attention was paid to Qasim's bloody and conspiratorial regime until his sudden decision to withdraw from the pact in 1959, an act that "freaked everybody out" according to a former senior U.S. State Department official.
Washington watched in marked dismay as Qasim began to buy arms from the Soviet Union and put his own domestic communists into ministry positions of "real power," according to this official. The domestic instability of the country prompted CIA Director Allan Dulles to say publicly that Iraq was "the most dangerous spot in the world."
In the mid-1980s, Miles Copeland, a veteran CIA operative, told UPI the CIA had enjoyed "close ties" with Qasim's ruling Baath Party, just as it had close connections with the intelligence service of Egyptian leader Gamel Abd Nassar. In a recent public statement, Roger Morris, a former National Security Council staffer in the 1970s, confirmed this claim, saying that the CIA had chosen the authoritarian and anti-communist Baath Party "as its instrument."
According to another former senior State Department official, Saddam, while only in his early 20s, became a part of a U.S. plot to get rid of Qasim. According to this source, Saddam was installed in an apartment in Baghdad on al-Rashid Street directly opposite Qasim's office in Iraq's Ministry of Defense, to observe Qasim's movements.
Adel Darwish, Middle East expert and author of "Unholy Babylon," said the move was done "with full knowledge of the CIA," and that Saddam's CIA handler was an Iraqi dentist working for CIA and Egyptian intelligence. U.S. officials separately confirmed Darwish's account.
Darwish said that Saddam's paymaster was Capt. Abdel Maquid Farid, the assistant military attaché at the Egyptian Embassy who paid for the apartment from his own personal account. Three former senior U.S. officials have confirmed that this is accurate.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:03 PM
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14. Will Durst does this comedy routine about reporters asking the idiot
how he was so damn certain that Saddam had WMDs. W says "Because my Daddy sold them to him".
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:04 PM
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15. lol
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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:00 PM
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12. Great Interview!.......Ritter was quite explicit about PNAC and..
the goals of the "usurpers" of American Democracy in "usurping" the "middle east" for the "security" of Israel and US interests. Basically, reduces Iraq to the "future "staging" area for American Imperialist interests in the "middle east".

Anyway, it was great to hear how honest and forthright he was!!

Does White Rose Society "archive" Randi???

BUMP!
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:03 PM
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13. The new book by Scott Ritter
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 06:03 PM by realFedUp
Frontier Justice: Weapons of Mass Destruction and the Bushwhacking of America
By Scott Ritter

Frontier Justice exposes the fraudulent manner in which President Bush and Company's new scheme of world domination has been sold to Congress and the American people, especially through the "Big Lie" about the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. A former Marine intelligence officer who served in the 1991 Gulf War and led U.N. weapons inspection efforts in Iraq until his resignation in 1998, Ritter dissects this myth and reveals how Bush carried out the international equivalent of a west Texas lynch mob, forcing his own brand of frontier justice in the Middle East.

List Price: $11.95
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http://www.airamericaradio.com/bookstore/BrowseItems.php?ShowId=4


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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:18 PM
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16. You mean if asked to leave, those 14 military bases will still be
operated at least into perpetuity. Freedom, freedom.
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vpigrad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:20 PM
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17. How does it help the Iraqi's to steal their land?
I just don't get it.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:38 PM
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18. Maybe the Native Americans and the Palestinians
can answer that question.

:shrug:
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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:54 PM
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19. The partial answer is that the indigenous peoples of the America's..
learned how to speak English, French, Spanish, and Portuguese much better than their ancestors.

The United States is the PRODUCT of European imperialism. Now, we, of European descent have the POWER, and, we will proceed to exact history to the requirements of our ancestors.
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