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Thu Feb-03-05 08:45 PM
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So, if only gay babies were aborted, would that be ok with fundies? |
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silly question that just popped up.
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Thu Feb-03-05 08:47 PM
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1. The day they can test for homosexuality in fetuses |
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is the day that the Right will promote abortion.
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Feathered Fish
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Thu Feb-03-05 08:47 PM
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that being gay is a decision that one makes after birth, not a genetic thing. So, they would argue that no child is ever born gay.
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Thu Feb-03-05 08:50 PM
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3. wow, that's so inflammatory |
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Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 08:53 PM by Undercover Owl
I'm gonna post before the thread gets locked or something.
No, they see all babies as being heart-achingly, mind-numbingly innocent. If a baby has genes that predispose him/her to be homosexual, then they would just pray a lot for that baby. Their prayers would (they hope) convince the baby not to be gay.
Do you think people do that?! Does anyone sit around praying for babies not to turn gay?!? I wonder....
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Thu Feb-03-05 10:15 PM
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These are the same people who think prayer can make a gay adult straight. Of course they'd think it would work for fetuses.
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Thu Feb-03-05 08:50 PM
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not sure what the fundies think, but ill give you the perspective of a conservative catholic, makes no difference if the child is gay, straight etc, its still a child.
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burn the bush
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Fri Feb-04-05 01:55 AM
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10. at what point then, would that child become evil? |
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I mean with the christian right lately, it seems that they have a whole lotta hate for gay/les. That same sweet lovable child is still gonna be gay. Where is the point where the child is no longer lovable child but hated gay? Just wondering. Not trying to hassle you.
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Thu Feb-03-05 08:58 PM
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5. How did that "silly"question just pop up? |
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I don't understand if you are joking or serious.
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Ian David
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Thu Feb-03-05 09:36 PM
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6. Relax. He's just reflecting on the fundamentalist hypocrisy |
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You'll execute the guilty And protect the single-cell But mercy-kill the terminally ill and you're going straight to hell
That kinda stuff.
It's like the fundies that are against abortion AND against condoms AND against gays adopting babies.
In any case, the answer to my question is this:
If they knew in advance their child would be born gay, they would do exactly what Carrie's (fictional) mother did when she knew her daughter would be born with psychic powers.
They would subject the child to an oppressive and joyless life of misery in a futile attempt to prevent the inevitable.
Because they fervently believe that God cares enough about what personally offends them that they can bend Him to their will and change their child-- at ANY cost.
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Fri Feb-04-05 02:05 AM
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12. ooh, i think you are probably absolutely correct. How terribly sad. |
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Fri Feb-04-05 01:59 AM
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but the christian right has really disgusted me lately. I was thinking that gay and lesbians really are getting hit the hardest by the "new Christian govt" and it's followers. Was just thinking how far their rights and even acceptance have been set back with this admid. That's when the question popped up. Was feeling snarky, so I posted it.
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Thu Feb-03-05 10:11 PM
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I had a fundie whackjob relative tell em they believed that, because their preacher had told them so. I was like, I thought you didn't believe in abortion." She: I don't. Me: I thought you believe being gay is a choice you make as an adult. She: It is. Me: Then how the heck does THAT make sense. She said IF it was discovered you are born gay, then it would be okay to abort babies, because you would be bringing them into the world sinful and condemning them to hell. If they were "murdered" before birth, they would go straight to heaven.
Swear to GOD.
WTF?????
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Thu Feb-03-05 10:38 PM
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9. Actually, there's a play/TV movie that deals with this issue. |
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It's called "Twilight of the Golds" and was aired on one of the premium cable movie channels several years ago. I know it's available on video (and possibly DVD) and recommended it as the kind of film that raises lots of ethical issues.
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Fri Feb-04-05 02:10 AM
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13. I remember a movie similiar to this subject |
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A pregnant woman found out her baby was gay (I don't know if the movie was based in the future) and her husband wanted her to abort it. Does anyone know what I'm talking? Sorry, I wish I could remember the title.
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Fri Feb-04-05 02:27 AM
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14. No, they are NOT born gay, they CHOOSE to sin by turning gay |
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and it would be wrong to murder those innocent little blobs of cells who have not yet chosen to defy almighty god and bring eternal damnation unto their souls by sinning against nature by deciding to be gay.
Don't you know anything about fundie teachings?
I was raised in a fundie church, so I have rather detailed knowledge of how these people think. 20+ years of stone cold agnosticism has not dimmed the awful awareness of this garbage - I will remember it for the rest of my life.
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