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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:44 AM
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In 1999, people were arguing whether 'WWW' meant 666
"Is "www" in Hebrew equal to 666?

We’ve gotten several emails asking is it true "www" is "666" in the Hebrew language.

YES. . . and. . . NO.

NOTE: "www" is the acronym for world wide web and is normally used as the prefix, or first node of the Internet domain names, such as www.av1611.org

FIRST. . . The YES.
How to get 666 from www?

The Hebrew and Greek alphabet does not have separate characters or alphabets for numbers and letters. Letters are also used as numbers. So each letter is a numerical value.

The Hebrew equivalent of our "w" is the letter "vav" or "waw". The numerical value of vav is 6. So the English "www" transliterated into Hebrew is "vav vav vav", which numerically is 666.

Now. . . the NO.

A little "detail" concerning the Biblical number "666":

Notice how Revelation 13:18 reads:

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Rev. 13:18
The number is NOT simply three SIXES or 6-6-6, but 600 + 60 + 6, or the number "Six hundred sixty and six".
In Revelation 13:18 we're curiously told to "count the number of the beast". How do we "count the number of the beast"? In Revelation 14:11 the mark is referred to "the mark of his NAME". In Revelation 13:17, 15:2 it's called "the number of his NAME". So the "mark" and "number" refer to his "name". We count the number of his name."
http://www.av1611.org/666/www_666.html

According to this site:

666 is total of the numerical values in the letters of the antichrist's name.
666 is total of the numerical values of the letters in the antichrist's name.
666 is the number of a man, the antichrist, or the beast.
The mark of the beast controls the ability to buy or sell.
The mark of the beast goes in the right hand or forehead.
The mark is symbolic of the antichrist or beast.
The mark is received only after worshiping the beast.



Is Bush the Antichrist?
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:45 AM
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1. Of course it does
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:47 AM
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2. That's some scary shit!!!!!
:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:47 AM
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3. WWW is also a symbol of the Boy Scouts' Order of the Arrow...
service society.

NGU.


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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:54 AM
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4. a bit wrong with the hebrew vav thing
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 10:04 AM by MadAsHellNewYorker
In hebrew, to get a "w" sound, you need a double vav. so it would read vav vav vav vav vav vav. Making it 666666 not 666.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:55 AM
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5. I'm not religious, but here's some interesting and scary info...
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 09:56 AM by Stop_the_War
I decided to google it and see what came up, here it is, from some random doomsayer website:

a 1 i 9 q 17 y 25
b 2 j 10 r 18 z 26
c 3 k 11 s 19
d 4 l 12 t 20
e 5 m 13 u 21
f 6 n 14 v 22
g 7 o 15 w 23
h 8 p 16 x 24

Now if you add up the numbers of his name, George Walker Bush, according to the table above you get 7+5+15+18+7+5 for George, +23+1+12+11+5+18 for Walker, and +2+21+19+8 for Bush, which all adds up to a total of 177 = 1+7+7 = 15 = 1+5 = 6. That's our first six..

Mr. Bush was born July 6, 1946. So if you add up all the digits in his date of birth you get 7+6+1+9+4+6 = 33 = 3+3 = 6. There - now we have our second six.

The antichrist's first step in his goal of attaining complete world domination for Satan, was achieved on that fateful day Bush was first elected governor of Texas - his first elected office - on November 8, 1994. Again, just by adding up the digits we get 1+1+8+1+9+9+4 = 33 = 3+3 = 6. The third six.

update !! : After losing the popular vote on November 7, 2000, the antichrist will take his next giant leap towards ruling the earth when he is inaugurated president of the United States on January 20, 2001. 1+2+0+2+0+0+1 = 6. Another six to replace the one he had as Governor!!

So there you have it folks - 666 - the number of the Beast - beyond any shadow of a doubt now.

(Note: Ever wonder why George Herbert Walker Bush Sr. left the 'Herbert' out when naming his son? Was it a crafty way of dedicating his firstborn son to Satan? George = six letters, Walker = six letters, and BushJr (or 'Busche', which was the original German spelling of their name) = six letters. = 666. Once again, the number of the beast!)

here's more of this site:
http://mirrors.meepzorp.com/geocities.com/george-bush-antichrist/

NOTE: I am not religious
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:07 AM
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6. No, no, no
Given: BARNEY'S A CUTE PURPLE DINOSAUR
Prove: BARNEY IS THE ANTI-CHRIST

Since Jesus was killed by the Romans, we can assume that they were in league with the anti-Christ. If we rewrite the given statement as BARNEY'S A CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR to make it more Roman, we can then extract the Roman Numerals:
C = 100
V = 5
V = 5
L = 50
D = 500
I = 1
V = 5

And add them up, you get 666.

Thus Barney is the anti-Christ.

TlalocW
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:19 AM
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7. This has interested me for years
But I think the biggest mistake in understanding this prophesy is to assume first that the beast is a man
And secondly that the beast and the anti-Christ are one and the same.
It says that the beast has the number of a man, and that is something you would say only if it was not understood that it was a man.
And the anti-Christ is a man but not the beast which is described as having iron jaws with brass teeth, and brass claws that rips and tears at the earth...not a description of a man at all.
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:15 PM
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13. The beasts of Daniel are the same as the beast of Revelation...
and in Daniel they are identified. The second listed beast in Revelation is one who looks like Christ and speaks like Satan. The second beast is one who gives honor to the first beast.

In Daniel out of the beast that is Rome (which has ten horns) there will arise a small horn. The horns are described to mean kingdoms. The small horn displaces three of these.

>>>Antichrist is not a Person

In Daniel 7 the ten horns are taken to be kingdoms amongst whom the Roman Empire would be scattered. Among them would rise a little horn. What is a horn? The ten horns are kingdoms. What is the little horn then? It, too, must be a kingdom, not a person.

In Rev 13, Antichrist is pictured as a beast. What are the four beasts of Daniel. They are Empires. The first beast of Revelation 13 is taken by all to be an empire. What therefore is the second beast who looks like Jesus but talks like the devil? That's right, not a person. If the beasts are empires, then the lamb-like beast is a little empire. Antichrist is thought by some to be a soon coming person. A man who will sit on a throne in Jerusalem. But Rev. 17 gives the picture of Antichrist as a woman dressed in scarlet who rides the power of the Roman Empire. Is Antichrist a woman? She is called "Babylon, mystery, the Mother of harlots." Antichrist is not a woman. The picture of Rev 17 is as the others, of some false religious power which assumes the power of the Roman Empire and claims to have the power of God. Antichrist is not a person. Antichrist is predicted to be a political power rising out of the Roman Empire, and the church as in II Thess. 2, which we will notice later. <<<

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>>>This chapter actually does open up if one simply substitutes the name of the Roman Empire for its code name as the first beast. Let's try the paraphrase of Chapter 13.

Verses 1 - 8 I saw the Roman Empire rise up having seven heads (or the seven forms of government through which it was to pass) and ten horns (or the ten kingdoms into which it was to be divided.) It had the appearance of the Babylonian, Persian and Greek empires that were before it and the Devil gave it its authority. I saw one of its forms of government wounded to death, but its wound was healed; and all the world wondered after the Roman Empire. And they worshipped the Devil who gave power to the Roman Empire, and they said who is like the Roman Empire or is able to make war against it? And the Roman Empire blasphemed and (after it was wounded to death and healed of the wound) it was given power to continue 1260 years. And the Roman Empire blasphemed the name of God and the church and the Christians. Besides having power over all nations and tongues he also made war with the true believers and overcame them. The non-christians worshipped him and they remained unsaved.

Verses 9, 10: If you are spiritually inclined listen: Be patient for the coming of the Lord; because human struggles based on selfishness and pride will keep on going on. But the Lord will make it right in the end. Don't try to set this world's ills right by warfare or other such human means.

Verses 11 - 14: I saw another empire rise up from the world system. It looked like Jesus but spoke like the Devil. He exercises all the power of the Roman Empire. This is after the wound of the Roman Empire was healed, and he caused people who live for this world to worship the Roman Empire. He is able to do signs and wonders and miracles in the Roman Empire, with which he deceives people who live for this world. <<<

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>>>We now use the Arabic number system with numerals 1 through 9 and then adding a zero, invented by the Arabs in the eighth century. Previous to that time numbers were attributed to each letter of the alphabet. A = 1, B = 2, C = 3, ... J = 10 then K would not be 11 but 20 and L = 30 etc. Continuing, R would be 90, S would be 100, T = 200 and so on. Any name therefore would have a numerical value. Both Hebrew and Greek alphabets used this system.

It is well known, and has been for centuries, that the name Roman in both Greek and incredibly also in Hebrew has the number we are looking for. It ought to have it. The number is the name of the beast, and the name of the beast is Roman. Every Historical interpreter with few exceptions, from Irenaeus forward, has recorded this fact. In the old world Tertullian, and Hippolytus did. Isaac Newton, the scientist, did in the 17th century; Robert Fleming at the turn of the 17th century; Bishop Newton in the 18th century; Faber, Barnes, Elliott, Cunningham, Johnson, and a host of others from almost every denomination of Protestantism in the 19th century.

The book of Revelation and New Testament are written in Greek and the rest of the Scriptures are written in Hebrew. In Greek the name Roman is Lateinos; it has the number. In Hebrew, the name Roman when modifying empire or beast is feminine, Ro-mi-ith, (empire and beast are feminine in Hebrew). The Hebrew form also has the number! Would it be possible to find any other name which would have the number in both Biblical languages? This must be more than coincidence. Click here to see the Greek and Hebrew Number systems and Bishop Thomas Newton's chart which he composed in 1750. <<<

http://www.ao.net/~fmoeller/rev666.htm
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:42 PM
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16. All of that is interesting but
I think it is confused by mixing history with what we have now.
For instance you say the Roman empire is the beast of Revelations, but that is imposable because the Roman empire ended a thousand years ago and is no more.
But that fact is used by the fundies to turn our eyes away from reality and keep them focused on the Pope and the expectation of a rise of the Holey Roman Empire again. Something that is getting more and more unlikely as the years go by.
And besides if you read Daniel you will see that the last beast he speaks of has no organic quality at all it is totally mechanical (with brass claws, ripping and tearing at the earth and stomping on the residue) And Daniel is told that this beast will be different from all that came before it And will consume the whole earth.
Now look at today and ask yourself what kingdom that now exists does those things. It is clear that the beast is one that has industrial power And is now about to cover the whole earth.
The only one that fits that description is the cooperate capitalist system we have today. That is an empire that is different than any that came before it and it does tear at the earth and stomp on the residue. ( that is what pavement is, the residue of industry)
And yes there are mystery's in Revelations that are hard to figure, but do not get stuck in the rut of looking to the past for answers to what we have now and what reality is.

"Antichrist is not a Person"

Yes the anti-Christ is a person and if he is to live up to his name (One that destroys mankind) Then he will have power of the military and most assuredly the Atomic bomb. ( this is told when it says that "if these days be not shortened no flesh would survive on the earth")
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:16 PM
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18. So it sounds like a ditch digger?n/t
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Guns Aximbo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:19 AM
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8. What a crock of sh_t
There is no god and there is not devil - so try not to burn up too many brain cells thinking of this load of crap.
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:46 AM
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9. I thought it was for world wide web, damn
Good thing the religious right showed me the internet is the devil; I would never have figured that out.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:45 AM
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10. They are not talking about the devil
It is the beast and anti-Christ...not the same thing.
But of course if you believed is all a bunch of crap then you would not know that. And so you would comment out of ignorance then.
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 12:54 PM
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11. The Greek and Hebrew words for ROME tally to the number in both languages.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:05 PM
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12. I would like to remind you that the bible is a metaphor....
and Revelations was written to the Christians of Rome who were being percecuted to give them hope. While the world may end with a big war, the chapter was written so that they could have hope that they wouldn't be suffering forever.
Duckie
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:17 PM
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14. yeah...
revelation is basically a crock of shit....LOL..so is the rest of the damn bible..
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:20 PM
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15. I wouldn't call it a crock of shit...but I would say it is fiction...
Even the Catholic church admits that it's just a book of stories set to guide our lives and teach us how to live. They even admit that time is off.
And might I remind you that calling something like the bible a crock of shit is offensive to some people and it's not fair to be so closed minded.
Duckie
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:10 PM
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17. Vav Vav Vav would be eighteen, not 666...
666 would be taf reish samech vav.

A stretch however you view it.
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