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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:45 PM
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Should LaRouche be included in the next debate?
At least then the whackos who support him won't have a reason to throw tantrums. Although he is not a serious a candidate, he has raised more money some of the other nine candidates. Plus some are not polling very far (if at all) ahead of him.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:46 PM
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1. Why is it so obvious they were Larouche supporters?
I missed a good portion of the debate, but the disruption I heard was unintelligible. How do people know they were Larouche supporters?
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RichV Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:47 PM
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4. Because
they were screaming things like "WHERE'S LAROUCHE?" really loudly.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:53 PM
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10. not supporters
they are cult members
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SweetZombieJesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:46 PM
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Fuck no
If the idiots in the crowd weren't plants (which is highly unlikely), then these people did a HUGE disservice to their candidate tonight. If whiny, interrupting assholes are LaRouche's base, then we can do without him or them.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 09:05 PM
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16. wow, your post has no number
dude, that is so...out of there!
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:46 PM
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2. no, just have better security, make sure it's not a FOX debate
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Liberalboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:47 PM
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3. This might sound stupid.....
but who the hell is Lyndon LaRouche?
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RichV Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:49 PM
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5. LaRouche
Page at http://larouchein2004.net/

He's an asshat.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:49 PM
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6. i say yes
but just for the entertainment value
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:50 PM
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7. No, these are Democratic debates
He's not a Democrat...
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:58 PM
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14. He is a Democrat... Has run on the Democratic ticket before
To my surprise, I noted the other day that Open Secrets lists Larouche as a 2004 Democratic Candidate

http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/index.asp

Not sure what to think... Will have to research this...
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 09:17 PM
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18. "not a real Democrat."
http://www.politics1.com/dems04.htm
In 2000, LaRouche captured just 124 votes (11th place) in the New Hampshire Democratic primary -- and blamed his poor showing on a conspiracy led by the New Hampshire Secretary of State. He also competed in numerous other 2000 primaries -- but generally finishing in the 1-4% range in each contest. Although he passed the required 15% needed to win delegates in the late season Arkansas primary (he won 22%), the DNC refused to award LaRouche any delegates because they ruled that he was "not a real Democrat." LaRouche sued the DNC -- but the federal court ruled that the Democratic Party had the legal right to deny awarding any delegates to LaRouche, as he was not an authentic Democratic candidate because of his fringe views. The DNC also notes that LaRouche -- as a convicted felon -- is not a registered Democrat (nor even a registered voter) and is also not eligible under party rules to be the nominee for this reason. For the same reason, party leaders are excluding him from the debates -- even though he raised $3.7 million as of the end of March 2003 (which placed him ahead of all but Edwards and Kerry in the money hunt). Of that amount, he has $120,000 remaining unspent.
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:51 PM
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8. HELL NO!!
Larouche is a fraud and a joke on top of the fact that he's a criminal, antisemite and a lunatic. This guy lived in a mansion and played no taxes then he got sentenced to jail time.
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pasadenaboy Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:53 PM
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9. HE'S IN JAIL
on tax evasion charge.

Sorry, but he's not available.
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RichV Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:58 PM
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12. Traficant
Didn't stop him from running. ;-)
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:57 PM
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11. No way
LaRouche is a real loony toon. He runs a cult, and is probably more dangerous than John Ashcroft. LaRouche has real totalitarian leanings.
If elected, we can expect many speeches concerning why the British Royal Family is evil.

Does anyone else watch his cable acsess program?
LL is a real crackpot.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:58 PM
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13. If David Duke says he's a Dem should we include him?
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 08:59 PM
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15. I think most people here are forgetting about the entertainment value
come on, it'd be a laught riot.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 09:09 PM
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17. here is some weird stuff
much of LaRouche's stuff would go well with the black helicopter gang

‘Synarchism/Nazi-Communist'

All right, let's go back to a little bit of history. Now, I knew a great deal about these matters, both of economy, and so forth, and the nature of the enemies of mankind in modern history, going back to Greek times, or so. I knew that. But, there was some deficiency, in the precision of my knowledge, as to who exactly was who. Now, in about 1983-84, some government documents, from secret intelligence, were released to the National Archive, with the specific intention, that by declassifying and releasing them, I would have access to them. And, I was then told, “Go to the National Archive. There are some documents you want, waiting for you.” They covered the period from the 1920s through 1945. The documents are primarily, first of all, U.S. military intelligence. They are secondly, OSS documents from World War II. And thirdly, there are French intelligence documents, investigating the same matter. The subject or the title of these documents, as a collection, was “Synarchism/Nazi-Communist.”

Now, what this involved at the time, was a group of financial interests, which are called in Italian “fondi.” These are equivalent to the fondi or the financial interests, which are behind the Lombard bankers who orchestrated the great New Dark Age of the 14th-Century Europe crisis. The same people, or the same families; same type of families. These people, faced with the danger of a financial collapse, and faced with the fear that, in Germany, as in the United States, that the response to the financial collapse would be actions, such as those which Roosevelt did take, in 1933 on, inside the United States.

In order to prevent (they hoped), to prevent that from occurring, they proposed to establish a fascist dictatorship, in Europe, which would then be used to create a world empire. These were the people called the “Synarchists/Nazi-Communists.” I'll explain why they were called that: These are the same people behind what happened to New York City in 1975, under a Felix Rohatyn, who was then, and is today, a representative of this group, which is called, in U.S. classification from the 1920s through 1945, “Synarchist/Nazi-Communist.” That's what happened.

Today, as then, there are a group of financier interests, who, as we speak, using their agent Alan Greenspan, have a certain plan, for your financial future. What they've now done, is they've dropped the Federal discount rate toward as close to zero as they can get; and they're about to drop it further. The reason for this dropping of the discount rate, is to try to pump sucker-money into financial markets, by saying “the markets are going up, therefore, please, suckers, come invest your money in this wonderful future, which is being created by Alan Greenspan.”

What will happen? In a short period ahead, this financial bubble will collapse. Bankruptcy will spread. Alan Greenspan will run the discount rate up to, maybe, between 7% and 10%, and all the suckers will be wiped out. Mortgage owners will be wiped out; businesses will be wiped out; pensions will be wiped out; insurance plans will be wiped out, and so forth.

This is the kind of people we are dealing with. These are the kinds of people who want world war. And these are the people who own and are using, a group of people, who are Synarchists, who are called in this country, “neo-conservatives,” or something else.

“Neo-conservatives” means a group of people, who often were of Jewish and Trotskyist backgrounds, who are now running our government, under Cheney, who went over to Nazism. This includes the Social Democrats of America, which some of you know of. This includes a dead Senator, Moynihan, who some of you know about, who was part of this. Moynihan was the guy who gave you the replacement of the Bretton Woods health-care system, which worked, by the present health maintenance organization system, in 1973. He is the man, who, from his grave, is reaching out to kill you, too.

These are the kinds of people you are dealing with. Cheney is part of it. I think Cheney actually is a dummy; his wife is the ventriloquist, because she's the one who's on the inside, hmm. And, you see this scowl on his face, and you think, “Is that the third Edgar Bergen dummy, to go along with Charley McCarthy and Mortimer Snerd? Is Cheney the third one? What is really behind him?”

All right, but the same thing is true today.

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