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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:50 AM
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Are canned hunts legal in the US?
Watching CSI (sort of) and they had a thing on it. That's disgusting if it is.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:53 AM
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1. Sadly, yes.. Private landowners in Oklahoma & Texas
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 12:53 AM by SoCalDem
have been known to hanve "canned hunting" facilities. I saw one once where they handfed the animals so they had no fear of humans.. They called a gorgeous panther to the fence row, when a guy in the back of a pickup shot her.. for a trophy :grr:.. made me want to puke:(
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:53 AM
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2. Is that where you get to "hunt" an animal in a cage?
If so, Yes. I saw an HBO special on this practice once. It is ridiculous and nothing more than a slaughter.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:54 AM
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3. Probably are
I know "unofficially" dog fighting and other nasty disgusting "sports" are allowed to go on in my hometown in NC unfortunately.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:05 AM
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8. if you know of anything make an anonymous report to animal control
where are you, anson county?

I know it's everywhere in NC, but I have heard that the SBI has a special branch in Anson to deal with it.

You can write the state vet at the Dept of Agriculture if animal control won't take action. The cops are getting more involved in this because of the link with drugs, gangs, and illegal gambling.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:09 AM
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11. will do
I'm in Richmond County, next door. Hopefully they'll catch more of them. I shy away from people if I do hear them talking about it, because they use kittens to train them. Thanks for the info, I will be glad to turn them in for that.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:55 AM
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4. They are in Texas and apparently in Nevada if CSI is
true.

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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:00 AM
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5. I watched it too and was glad when that bear...
tore that "canned" hunter to shreds! I've heard about these types of hunts in Texas (Bush Sr. and Gen. Schwarzkopf are supposedly participants). And also something about hunting via the Internet -- killing with the click of a mouse.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:01 AM
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6. Cheney's favorite sport.
They throw birds in front of his shotgun and he blows them away.

I'm not making it up. That's what he does down in Patterson, LA. with his buddy Scalia.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:05 AM
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9. Sick sob
probably grabs his testicles and thinks he a real man for doing it too. If they hunt, they should have to work for it. I mean the other animals do. They take pictures sometimes too. :puke:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:03 AM
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7. A good article from the Wildlife Protection website
http://www.wildlifeprotection.net/CannedHunt/cannedhuntindex.html



Cheney's Canned Kill, and Other Hunting Excesses of the Bush Administration

http://www.hsus.org/legislation_laws/wayne_pacelle_the_animal_advocate/cheneys_canned_kill_and_other_hunting_excesses_of_the_bush_administration.html

The private excesses of Dick Cheney's canned hunt are bad enough, but the Animal Adovcate is more concerned about the Bush Administration's public policy excesses. more
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:07 AM
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10. Sample Prices for Canned Hunts
Sample Prices for Canned Hunts

http://www.hsus.org/wildlife/stop_canned_hunts/sample_prices_for_canned_hunts.html


The following price list is a composite based upon actual brochures/price lists from canned hunt operators.

E = Federally listed endangered species.

ANTELOPE

Addax $1,200-$4,000

Antelope, Sable $3,000-$8,000

Blackbuck $750-$2,500

Blesbok $1,500-$3,000

Eland $1,200-$2,500

Gazelle, Grants $800-$2,000

Gazelle, Dama $800-$3,500

Gazelle, Thompsons $800-$2,400

Gemsbok $800-$3,500

Gnu $1,500-$4,000

Impala $1,000-$2,400

Kudu $3,500-$6,000

Nilgai $1,500

Oryx, horned Scimitar $1,500-$3,500

Oryx, Beisa $1,500-$3,500

Sitatunga $1,000-$2,500

Springbuck $800-$1,600

Waterbuck $1,500-$3,500

CATTLE

Buffalo, Water $3,500

DEER

Barsingha (E) $5,000

Deer, Axis $500-$1,500

Deer, Elds (E) $8,50

Deer, Fallow $500-$1,500

Deer, Pere David's 4,500-9,000

Deer, Red $1,500-$6,000

Deer, Sika $700-$1,500

GOATS

Goat, Angora $250-$325

Goat, Catalina $250-$325

Goat, Pygmy $350

Ibex $2,000

Tahr $2,500

SHEEP

Aoudad $750-$2,000

Mouflon $400-$1,500

Sheep, Barbados $250-$350

Sheep, Corsican $250-$500

Sheep, Four-Horn $850

SWINE

Wild Boar $200-$1,000

MISCELLANEOUS

Zebra, Grants $800-$2,000


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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:17 AM
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12. There are over 1000 operations in 28 states currently - it's revolting
Right now, today, you can pay $2,ooo dollars to shoot a hand-fed, docile gazelle or zebra through the head at close range on American soil. Canned hunt animals are sometimes exotic (high ticket) and sometimes native but they are almost always bred and born in captivity, completely dependent on humans for food and deliberately rid of their natural fears in order to expedite their easy slaughter.

They are kept in small enclosures and fed at regular intervals by humans in order to make them as easy as possible for the paying customers to kill. This is not sport or even a real hunt, it is a grotesque mockery of genuine contest, requiring no skill.

Abraham Lincoln once said: "I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being." This practice of shooting tame and domesticated creatures in close quarters would surely have been repugnant to President Lincoln, as it should be to us all.

The Humane Society has a page on this: http://www.hsus.org/wildlife/issues_facing_wildlife/hunting/canned_hunts/index.html


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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:23 AM
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13. Yeah, it's real.
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 01:26 AM by Zynx
There also are plenty of hunting perserves and ranches, usually for wild boar or deer, and a lot of those are legitimate fair chase where you have to bust your ass to get your animal.

Usually anything offering exotics or bears is going to be canned, though.
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shawcomm Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:38 AM
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14. It's done in Georgia too I believe...
And someday, in Texas, these guys want to make internet hunting available: http://www.live-shot.com
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:43 AM
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15. Jesus!!!!
Someone needs to tell these clowns, no matter how many hand-fed, exotic "pets" they shoot, they still will be ugly with small dicks!

I can't understand the motivation. Hunting for meat is one thing, this is just sick.
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shawcomm Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:50 AM
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16. yep, sickening...
:puke:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:53 AM
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17. You can kill this "endangered" deer for only $5,000
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