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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:55 PM
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Does Disagreeing with the war help the enemy?
If the success or failure of this war depends upon whether some of us stand on street corners holding pieces of cardboard, then maybe it is something Rumsfeld and his buddies should have given serious thought to not doing in the first place.

Its success and failure should depend, as Bush et al are so fond of saying, on the calibre of our warriors. Since it obviously does not depend upon that, since it obviously does not depend on how good a job they do, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

The reason the success or failure of this war does not depend upon how good a job our troops do is because Al Qaeda et al are "forever", and we aren't. We can spend ALL of the money Bush wants, Give it ALL of the time he wants, Send ALL of the troops we will ever have, and we will still come to a point where we will declare ourselves "finished" with all of it, and Al Qaeda will STILL be there. They are forever and we aren't.

Even if we were "forever", what purpose does it serve to engage in an Un-ending War? It has to "succeed" at some point, at which point we declare it over and go home, and Al Qaeda is still there, it keeps on keeping on. It doesn't matter how good our troops are.

The only real solution is genocide. Is that what Bush proposes?

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:08 PM
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1. Could a course correction help you get safely back to home port?
And doesn't someone need to announce that?

I agree that the history of guerilla warfare suggests that if you don't lose you don't lose, and maybe you ultimately win. I suspect the same is true of terrorist warfare as well.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:08 PM
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2. no
my disapproval hasn't helped Bush.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:09 PM
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3. The US occupation of Iraq has nothing to do with Al Qaeda
The US should just get the hell out and let the UN mop up (with whatever financial/peacekeeping support they request from the US). IMO this is the only way out of Iraq.

Regarding Al Qaeda, bombing the life out of any given country will do nothing to them. The US should go after terrorists by infiltrating and subverting their organizations at the root.

In the bigger picture, the US should stop mucking around in the governments and economies of other countries.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:20 PM
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4. Being at War Forever ACTUALLY IS THE PLAN
Just like the 9/11 hijackers had no interest in learning how to land a plane.
Bush* has no interest in ending any of the wars he starts, because he and his
gang are dependent on a permanent state of war to stay in power.

They are setting up a classic Orwellian scenario straight out of 1984.
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Pillowbiter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:39 PM
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5. and yes, according to the PNAC papers
genocide is not out of the question.

PB
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:57 PM
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6. How could disagreeing with the war help the enemy?
And if it does, then why is the enemy complaining about it?

I think that Rummy is just trying reverse psychology on us -- trying to make us think that protesting the war is somehow helping the enemy Bushistas.
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