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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:10 PM
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did Ted Olson lie ?
did ted olson lie about the phone call he said he got from barbara during the terrorist attacks on 9/11 ? or make up things about what she said?
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:13 PM
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1. One wacky theory
Maybe he was hypnotized, or part of a mind control experiment. I'm serious. What else explains it? There is no way that Barbara Olsen had that phone conversation.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:15 PM
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2. Probably; without even reading why.
Now that I've tead it, even more convinced.

The hijackers could not possible have let her use the phone.
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:17 PM
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3. does Madonna like sex? does Bush pick his nose? bear shit in woods?
Edited on Thu Sep-11-03 09:17 PM by protect freedom impe
AFIRMATIVE !
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:17 PM
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4. He is part of the Bushie Cabal
Lying comes naturally.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:17 PM
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5. There are several reasons to attack Olsen
this ain't one. He isn't the only one who reported having a phone conversation with someone on that plane.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:48 PM
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11. I think Olsen's calls were the only ones from Flight 77
Edited on Thu Sep-11-03 09:48 PM by Minstrel Boy
I may be wrong, but that's what I recall.

Was he lying? He offered conflicting stories about them, but I don't think it matters a great deal. There were so many greater lies that day.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:48 PM
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12. I'm glad you responded.
For a minute there I thought I had missed a newsbreak. I don't know why anyone would doubt that the phone call occurred, though I thought it was weird that she had to get to him through the receptionist, instead of through his cell phone.

If I had to tinfoil the Ted-Barbara situation, I would more wonder why Ted wasn't angrier at Bush-Cheney when evidence of their complicity became more apparent. I mean, what would be the normal response under these circumstances? My money is on Ted Olsen, in the study, with the pretzel.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 10:04 PM
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16. You'd think Bushco would drag him out at every opportunity.
To say how much faith he has in them. To condemn Osama and Saddam.

Yet, where is he? Interviews? Appearances? Articles? Photo ops?

Where is Ted Olsen?
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 10:04 PM
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17. I'm not sure Barbara actually got to talk with Ted, did she?
She called several times, left message(s).

As I recall, she said that the hijackers had them herded together in the back of the cabin and she was trying to find out what to do. It would have been possible for her to use a cell phone without attracting much attention.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 10:16 PM
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18. Barb and Ted
September 12, 2001

"Moments before the Los Angeles-bound American Airlines flight slammed into the Pentagon, Barbara Olson, a well-known conservative, told her husband that the plane had been hijacked by a group of men wielding knives and cardboard cutters, said family friend Bob McConnell. She made no mention of guns or other weapons, McConnell said.

Talking to her husband by cell phone at his Justice Department office, Barbara Olson asked him what she should tell the pilot to do, possibly indicating that the pilot was in the back of the plane, where hijackers had shepherded the 58 passengers.

"He didn't know what to do," McConnell said of Theodore Olson, though he was aware from TV reports that another plane had earlier slammed into the World Trade Center.

"He didn't ask a lot of questions. He was concerned about her," said McConnell, who answered the phone yesterday evening at the Olsons' home in suburban Virginia outside Washington. "The rest of it was pretty much a private conversation."

http://www.nynewsday.com/ny-usols122362099sep12,0,3637380.story

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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:17 PM
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6. Is there a transcript somewhere?
I don't recall what she supposedly said, something about Clinton's penis, no doubt. A better question may be has Ted Olson ever told the truth.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:29 PM
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7. Did he open his mouth?
If so, he probably lied.

Bake
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:31 PM
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8. NPR did a story on this
One of the people in the radio story was an Airphone operator who was taking a message from one of the passengers for a relative she couldn't reach.

Who knows that Olsen talked about, but it was possible to make a call.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:32 PM
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9. He lied under oath to Congress
and became Solicitor General. Should never have been confirmed.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:39 PM
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10. At first, I thought that's what this thread was about
eom
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:51 PM
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13. Am I whacked our what?
For some reason, I've had "vibes" ever since the day that Ted Olson came on the news as the grief-stricken husband that his beloved wife, Barbara Olsen, died in the crash on 911..As we all know, the govt is into the "makeover" business when someone "cooperates", with them which means they can't have any contact with their family or friends again..Since this tragic day, the news stations have hired/fired/quit many of their reporters, as we know...However---there's a few blondes on FAUX that I've wondered about...I wonder IF Barb Olsen is alive and was "done over" by the govt...Isn't this nuts? I don't remember those blondes names, but, I think there's 2 new chics that, for some crazy reason, might possibly be her?

Ya, I know I'm tired and all, but, nothing surprises me anymore since the takeover of this wild administration. Plus, Ted Olsen has kept a low profile since..I don't trust ANY of them, and it wouldn't surprise me IF one of those new chics, they've been there awhile now, might be Barb Olsen done over...

The govt can do SO many things that we all know too well..But, check out those blondes, think hard about the witch, and check out those blondes who are on primetime shows on Faux...What do you think?? Should I head to bed now because you're probably thinking I'm delirious or drunk after reading this, but.......
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:53 PM
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14. Does it matter?
Let the bitch rest in piece and the family have peace.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:58 PM
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15. Of course it matters!
After all, if Barb hadn't told Ted about the boxcutters, we would have never known about them.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:10 AM
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19. Today...
is not the day for such tinfoil conspiracies.

I don't doubt for a second that Barbara Olsen, as loathsome as he was, died a horrible death at the hand of terrorists. I also don't doubt that she called her husband, as many other in-flight phone calls were made.

I mourn her passing just as much as I mourn everybody else who died that day. There are times when being human, or even just being Americans, is more important than politics.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:36 AM
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20. tinfoil?
Ted reported she called collect from an airphone. That's impossible, afaik.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:44 AM
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21. Well, afaik...
it's not in any way impossible, and there's lots of evidence to defend my view.

And as I said, today's not the day.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 04:08 AM
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22. ted olsen - serial adulterer and professional liar
like most of shrubco i don't believe a damn thing that shithead says.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:17 AM
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23. some of you misunderstood
some of you think i'm questioning whether barbara died at all. that's not what i'm doing. i know she died in the attacks. what i wanted to know is if ted olson told the truth about the phone call and especially of what he said she told him because i had heard there had been some questions about it, that he made conflicting statements or something similar. i know others called from the plane but i was just wondering about olson and what he said.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 09:03 AM
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24. leave this one alone
it's unseemly to attack him over this. Did his wife die that day? yes.
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DealsGapRider Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 09:06 AM
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25. Can you revolting people please show some respect for the dead?
The depravity of this thread and the comments it has inspired make my stomach turn. The man lost his wife for Christ's sake. Have some goddamn respect for the dead.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 09:07 AM
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26. Disgusting
You don't cite one shred of evidence that Ted Olsen lied
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